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Howdy! We have a customer coming in with a pickup truck for us to apply graphics to. She is going to have it buffed out beforehand (due to lots of scratches); we are wondering if the compound will interfere with the vinyl's adhesion.
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This is a good question. Especially since some people buff with compounds that contain wax. Dave Grundy probably knows, as may some of the other autobodyheads that frequent this board.
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If the compound has wax as most do it would be a good idea to wipe down the surface with a little alcohol before applying vinyl Bill
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Evelyn..Bill's idea is a good one and I would also mention that using some "wax and silicone remover" from your friendly neighbourhood NAPA (auto parts/paint) store would do the job too. Read the directions on the can. When trying to remove wax or silicone from a surface it is necessary to wipe the liquid on with a soaked rag and wipe the liquid off the surface with a dry rag or paper towel before the liquid evaporates. Just wiping it on doesn't remove the wax, it just "softens it" you have to wipe it off while it is "softened".
Just an idea from yer friendly neighbourhood Autobodyhead!
Hey Brad I kinda like that moniker!!!
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Hey Hassle..You are correct in saying that "rubbing compounds" used by auto body shops do not contain any waxes or silicones. In fact I used to use them to "prep" a surface where a blend of paint was required. Remember the old days of acrylic lacquer (before BC/CC)? However the question was about polishing compound and who knows where this was going to be done. At a detailing shop? Maybe they use something that DOES contain wax or silicone? Using a wax and silicone remover makes sense just in case some of those chemicals were used. What I forgot to mention was that after using a wax and silicone remover, I also clean the area with application fluid. It does a great job of cleaning the surface prior to allpying vinyl. I also know there is a product specifically for prepping surfaces, just haven't used it yet myself.
On a similar note. I discovered, when applying graphics to a fleet of new Freightliners, there was a lot of silicone on the doors in the area of the hinges. This was probably a result of the mechanics who did the PDI spraying the hinges in the spirit of preventative maintenance. (A body guys nightmare!!!). What I discovered was that "Rapid Remover" followed by "Rapid Tac" application fluid works great for removing the silicone spray. I don't ALWAYS carry wax and silicone remover with me.
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hey Dave, Rapid Remover also kills hornet, bees and wasp nests faster then most other products designed for that type of application.
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Polishing compound shouldn't cause any problems at all. I go over every vehicle I letter with polishing compound before I apply paint or vinyl. The compound will take off any road film or oxidation that could interfere with your paint or vinyl bonding. If they have much oxidation, I go over the lettering area with a power buffer. Just be sure you clean off any residue left from the compound.
The perfect product to use for the final clean up is "Rapid-Prep". Roger spent a lot of time coming up with a really great product. It not only cleans off any wax or residue, but it also adds a slight "tooth" to the finish which will help paint or vinyl adhesion. This is particularly important on some of the polyurethan finishes we are seeing on vehicles today.
One little tip on using "Rapid-Prep". Clean the surface twice with kitchen paper towels. Don't use the same towel for both cleanings, as you may well just be putting the wax right back on. Also don't use shop towels or windshield towels, as they often have chemicals in them that can screw up your paint or vinyl adhesion.
Jerry Mathel Jerry Mathel Signs Grants Pass, Oregon jmathel@grantspass.com
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quote:Rapid Remover also kills hornet, bees and wasp nests
Would it work on 'problem' customers? Nowthat would be true versatility. Then there could be a 'fogger' type version. THEN the product line would be truly complete.
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hahahaha Brad!!! We should contact Roger about that immediatly!!!!!!
------------------ Dave Grundy shop#340 AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@odyssey.on.ca www.odyssey.on.ca/~dave.grundy "A PROUD $ supporter of the website"
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