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What are your current favorite primers? We have been using one acrylic primer for redwood that seemed superior in blocking the migration of tannin's, but that company just went south. We have other primers we like on MDO and an oil primer on metal.
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Hi Rick, when I look on the can, it says it's made by Har Adheasive Technologies. When I went on the Har website, they had a primer called Primer 10, or System 10, I belive. When you read the product description, it is the same verbage as Jay Cookes, so I assume it's their primer just relabeled as Jay Cookes.
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Shellac is the natural stain blocker. So anything that is shellac based is my go-to when "stain-blocking" is the priority. Stain blockers are not primers. So you have to be careful of how you use them independently. Some die-hards put down a layer of pure shellac first, then the Zinsser (B-I-N) Pure Shellac Exterior Primer and Sealer. Then, the topcoats.
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John, do you like the pigmented shellac's? I don't know about everywhere else, but here in Calif. they don't sell alcohol any more. I can still buy shellac, but not the thinner. Makes clean up difficult.
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Thanks Curt. I myself only found this out a few years ago on my woodworking forums. I have fought redwood and cedar bleeding most of my adult life. Now in retirement, I find out all this "good stuff" LOL LOL.
Rick - I've never used pigmented shellac. Only the blond, unwaxed "pure" version. None of that modified stuff. On my woodworking forums, many are from states that don't have some solvents. They used to substitute alcohol stove fuel from marine stores and hard liquor. Now, I hear that "Everclear 151" and "Bacardi 151" has also been banned. I am in Florida. So I can't really suggest anything in your neck of the woods.
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John, the reason I replied to this is because several years ago I bought a reposed house to flip. One bedroom wall was covered in graffiti. Someone used a certain marker that would just not give up. 6 coats of Zinser ZIN Stain block and it finally stopped the bleed.
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I often use shellac for stain blocking with good results. I have found one drawback, though. I have to be careful not to use too many coats or it blisters in hot sun. I was in Yuma, Arizona recently, 170 miles away, so I picked up a couple of gallons of denatured alcohol. Seems strange that it is banned in California, but not some of the seemingly stronger solvents such as laquer thinner.
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