The sign goes between 2 posts. The road it is next to isn't level, it is curvy and slightly uphill. 1. Should I mount the sign so it is level, according to a level held up to the bottom of the sign. OR 2. So it looks optically level.
Diane
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I was taught to always do level. Street, building etc crooket, sign must be level.
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only place a level dont work is on a FORD VAN....90-2008......LETTERIN ON THE SIDES OF IT.....best spilt between level and the line of the truck....... [IMG][/IMG]
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I'll be the contrarian, sometimes you have to go by eye, optically level. A sign installed on a building that has clapboards off level won't look right if installed mechanically level. Sometimes you have to split the difference. The eye doesn't lie (well it does but that's how the client will judge the quality of the install). Perception is reality.
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I agree that a level should never be used on a vehicle, and sometimes you need to adjust for a "non-level" building, but Diane said this sign is going on 2 post beside a roadway. This sign needs to be level no matter the surroundings.
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wayne......sorry to inform you but the building is plumb and level....its a METAL BUILDING.....in case you dont know, all bolt holes on it make it so it CANT BE unlevel. its pretty evident as the doors are premade SQUARE.. and they went on the building with no problem. duh!!!! and with your ability to make stuff...hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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quote:Originally posted by Bill Lynch: I'll be the contrarian, sometimes you have to go by eye, optically level. A sign installed on a building that has clapboards off level won't look right if installed mechanically level. Sometimes you have to split the difference. The eye doesn't lie (well it does but that's how the client will judge the quality of the install). Perception is reality.
I've done that a couple times too. Installing level on something like that is a no no.
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When I have this problem I ask the customer to stand at a distance and eyeball it for level before securing the sign. That way I'm certain that the customer will be happy with it. Plus I'm not on the hook for getting it wrong, no matter how well-intentioned my solution.
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I'll be contrary also - perfectly level is the answer in most cases - and it allows you to be on the safe side of explaining if you're challenged on the subject.
But my answer is it needs to LOOK right, whatever that takes. Sometimes that takes a minor adjustment from reality.
As far as posts go - they must be vertical - no questions asked; but when dealing with horizontals, the surroundings can give varying perceptions. I'll sometimes split the difference then split that again between the middle, and reality; or as mentioned above, ask the client to guide you, and do it where they say - without mentioning the idea of a spirit level.
(But that can have worse consequences - I once erected a 16 ft billboard, and the client helped level it - the 7 horizontal beams we fitted had a 3 inch uphill run, on account of him being in charge of levelling! I had to mount the sheeting correctly though, and modify it so we didn't have two funny exposed triangles at each end of one diagonal!
However... he can't say anything was my fault!)
I still look at the offset every time I drive past that sign. Actually a sign like that could correctly be called a sigh!
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After the property management company complained to my customer the it was off by a couple of inches, we pulled out the sign, it was off by about 1/4". We reinstalled it, in cement, and put a level to it, bubble in the middle. Looked better. ttold the customer what we did'
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