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Hey guys & gals I've got a job to bid on but it's been awhile since I've lettered a storage tank. I have a logo that will be 19' tall & 45' wide on a storage tank that is 50' high and 85' diameter. the logo is an oval. Any suggestions for the best way to layout the logo? I thought about projecting but i'm concerned that the oval might get too distorted. Making a pattern that large seems like a huge ordeal especially if there is any wind while putting it on. Help!!!
thanks!
-------------------- Dan E. Kearfott KEARFOTT GRAPHIX 312 W. 8th St. Gibson City, IL 60936
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19 FEET X 45 FEET???? me............i would do the layout in corel draw at full size with the oval. as for a pattern....since you PAINTING, i sure you have some artistic skill.......like me, i would make 3 patterens......TOP, MIDDLE & BOTTOM. depending on the size of your plotter 24", 30", 48". now i would start, with an 8 ft pattern MIDDLE, BOTH ENDS. TOP & BOTTOM. this will give the tallest part of the sign and the smallest parts. chalk line, the straight letters one at a time, C,S,O's........make at least ` pattern for it.cause they extend below & above the straight line letters. as i said....the top abd bottom center patteren will also have that part of the oval as will the end pieces.............and i think you can just fake the line in between as 45 long......i dont think anyone will see if it not a perfect oval))))) HERE.....is a quick layout done at full size, then downsizes so it didnt take a week to to get here))) need to look close at the boxes.....3 verticals 8 ft wide....top and bottom 24-30" so you can get the curve of the oval...straight line letters, chalk line em....fake the curves) [IMG][/IMG] ))))
[ June 22, 2015, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]
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Wayne's way works great for smaller ovals on a flat surface, but will not work well on a round tank.
OP's way does not work. At that size shape is most important. You can make a ragged edge and no one will see it, but if the shape is not correct it will stand out big time.
If you are dead set about not using patterns Glenn has the best idea, however a 19' x 45' grid will take longer to layout and draw than the logo itself (time in the air cost money). I use the grid method on elliptical(golf ball) tanks because you cannot get a paper pattern to lay flat.
On a tank of this shape and size I would use paper patterns. I use 48" wide 20# bond paper and pounce with an electro-pounce for larger, cleaner holes. This would take 10 pieces, because at that size, I would start everything from the center line and work out. This requires two people(and OSHA says you have to have a man on the ground also).
When you make the patterns, roll them from the outside in. Draw a vertical center line, and a horizontal line that works for where you want to start (horizontal line does not have to be centered). Then starting at the vertical center line, roll out about 8 feet, and check your horizontal alignment. As long as you keep the pattern close to the tank, tape often, and roll out right against the tank, the wind is not too bad. The curve of the tank actually helps hold the paper. Each pattern should have a horizontal top and bottom line that are also pounced. Once you pounce one, you can use this to align the next one.
On a 50' tank the top of the logo should not be more than 42' from the ground.
At this height you will need 3 men and 2 60' man-lifts. You should be able to complete this in one day, but I would allow for 3 days rent on the lifts because 3 is usually cheaper than 2 (don't forget the cost of delivery and pick-up).
FYI...For a logo this size on a tank this size I would get $12,000.00 plus the cost of the lifts.
BTW... I will be in Delavan tomorrow night, if you would like to talk about this.
[ June 23, 2015, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: Don Hulsey ]
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thanks for all the suggestions guys. You've given me some food for thought. It sounds like the patterns are the way to go which is what I was thinking but I was just worried about the wind. Don thanks for the tips with the patterns.
Wish I could have come to Delevan but I had some prior obligations, however there's a chance I may be able to run over on Saturday at least for a visit.
-------------------- Dan E. Kearfott KEARFOTT GRAPHIX 312 W. 8th St. Gibson City, IL 60936
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