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I must say that if I were starting a new business and I heard about getting a logo and website for $99, I would do it. So that tells me it is up to the designer/sign shop to get the word out about being a better designer than what you can find on the web. But some ,some of those designers are pretty good. So maybe high dollar design is a thing of the past. How many times do we hear, "I found this logo on the web" "Yuki" You can lead a horse to water,,,,,,,
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3812 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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What frustrates me is not that they are getting these logos cheaper, but that they are not designed with future use in mind, which means a lot of work for the person who has to create the marketing/sign/promotional items afterwards. In the end the client often ends up paying more by the time each use has to reconfigure the logo into useable artwork. I detest having to rework someone else's mush.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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There was a "designer" around here. Every single time I got a logo that was created by this person, I had to explain to the customer that what works in print doesn't necessarily work on signs, i.e. using Papyrus for the name!
-------------------- Chris Welker Wildfire Signs Indiana, Pa Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001
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You guys hit the nail on the head! I've seen some nice logos on the web, but then can see right away that some won't translate to a sign, banner or truck graphic. Most designers don't design logos with future use/or production in mind. On the other hand - most customers don't mention to the designer what the logo is being used for or on - to trigger some thought. I believe College course instructors do not explain to their students about future use and production, probably because they don't know anything about it themselves. My blood pressure goes up when I get a logo designed by a designer that has crappy fonts, crappy layout and crappy designer colors, like "burnt sage" - Whaaat? How am I supposed to make that look good on a dark blue truck? I do try to educate new business owners when having a logo created to consider what that logo will be used on and for - some listen, some don't. Showing them good and bad designs sometimes gets the light bulb to come on quickly.
-------------------- Kathy Weeks Weeks-End Signs & Graphics Lake Elmo, Minnesota Posts: 249 | From: Lake Elmo, Minnesota | Registered: Mar 2009
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$99 is way to expensive- I was approached several times to join and work for "fiver" website- they offer all kinds of services including logo design, photography, etc… for $5…. FIVE DOLLARS!!!!!…. are you kidding me… FIVE DOLLARS????!!!! for a project…. what is this world coming to?!!!
-------------------- Michael Clanton Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio 1933 Blackberry Conway AR 72034 501-505-6794 clantongraphics@yahoo.com Posts: 1735 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001
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And then there is the 'I got this logo designed, but you need to stretch it so it will fit on my 3ft by 10ft sign."
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3812 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Well the saying goes ...You get what you pay for.
Here in Orlando it is like watching all those $99 logos & under develope & seeing the results, sorry to say it is the worst of the worst here then ya get a mix of awesome.
It is surely different from the past when even a new or poorly done sign painters were at least willing to improve & learn compared to now mostly just want to make money & only a few really care to to the best.
Outfits like Vista print & $99 logos really just sell what ya pay for & I for one does not know how to educate the buying business customer what the difference is.
The best way I able is to hand paint signs that PCs have a hard time with be it cost or unable & hopefully win customer over in areas that show my positive sides.
This is a common complaint what PCs have done to this great industry how best can we educate the buying business public ?
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