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This has always been a difficult thing at our shop. We settled on...
Designers and builders of themed dimensional signs and environments
-grampa dan
-------------------- Dan Sawatzky Imagination Corporation Yarrow, British Columbia dan@imaginationcorporation.com http://www.imaginationcorporation.com
Being a grampa is one of the the most wonderful things in the world!!! Posts: 8738 | From: Yarrow, B.C. Canada | Registered: Nov 1998
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Retired Sign Painter or Splash Artist Now just a "painter" or 'pxnt' at the end of my name.
-------------------- Preston McCall 112 Rim Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 text: 5056607370 Posts: 1552 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998
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Don't even try. If you can create effective logos with software and have callused hands from post hole digging and enough tools to qualify as a carpenter, electrician, or any other trade, then there is just no name for us.
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LOL Mike...I agree with what you said...EXCEPT the "underpaid" part.
If anyone is underpaid then they need to up their prices and never back down from a quote.
There are so many folks in the business who have more creativity and ability in the fingernail of their little finger than I ever had....But they "seem" to give away their talent because they love what they do.
Being in the sign business SHOULD involve managing the business like any other business person would.
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ring Ring,, " Is the the Sign Lady?" "Yes!" Ring Ring,,"Is the the Pinstriper?" "Yes!" Ring Ring,,"Is this the sticker Lady" "Yes" Ring Ring,,"This is the IRS, Are you the proprietor of this business" "Ahh, nope, I'm just the cleaning lady." I guess with me it depends on who is calling.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3812 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
-------------------- Jane Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764 815-844-7024 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 4102 | From: Pontiac, IL USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Also....I do charge a lot of money for my SignArt and find that people are more than willing to handover serious money for our work....and I am always backlogged and do very little vinyl.... and this is in a small community of 20,000 people.
What's up with that?
Jackson
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-------------------- Jackson Smart Jackson's Signs Port Angeles, WA ...."The Straits of Juan De Fuca in my front yard and Olympic National Park in my backyard...
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One of my best friends refers to me as "the friendly neighborhood sign chick". Of couse, he knows I have the ability & mischievous mind to make his life miserable. He has heavy equipment & I'm just waiting for one of his dozers to be somewhere I can safely sneak to it at night... I already converted the CAT logo file to say DOG. It WILL be changed without his knowledge so I can see how long it'll take him to notice.
A fellow firefighter calls me the "sticker chicker".
I usually just call myself a sign maker, although as I'm going to need new business cards with the new address on them, I'm really liking the idea of putting "friendly neighborhood sign chick" as my title.
-------------------- Chris Welker Wildfire Signs Indiana, Pa Posts: 4254 | From: Indiana, PA | Registered: Mar 2001
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seems no matter what YOU LABLE yourself as..........bottom line is.....WHAT DO people who hire YOU......CALL YOU))))))) for the longest time i never had a business name checking account. when i got the storefront i did get a business checking. since i had the shop name, and the mobile unit name i put both on the checking account. A SIGN MINT or SIGN HERE & NOW(was on the side of truckin big letters)so there was no mistaking who i was))) people......ALWAYS write the check to WHO THEY THINK YOU ARE)))) joe the sign guy, joe's signs, sign man.....signs......have had to remind these folks...BANK NEEDS COMPANY NAME!!!!!! no more business account.......only personal checking my name only. dont do a lot with checks, mostly cash nowadays. or they can bring me cash from their bank. so much simpler.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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My area here in the Dc Metro has surpassed San Francisco as Number one for highest Cost of Living expenses.
Our standard hourly rate is now $165/hr. The problem we now face is the competetion sees these prices and are willing to drive an hour each way to cash in. I was doing lettering in our new mall and met guys from as far away as Delaware who were driving 90 min. each way every day.
It's not uncommon to see trade vans with area codes from Baltimore to Richmond....
Go where the money is I guess.
-------------------- Mike Duncan Lettercraft Signs Posts: 1328 | From: Centreville, VA | Registered: Oct 2000
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There are about 5 shops in town, 2 are "other" businesses that started making signs in the past few years. One is a printing company that does digital printing and soft signs, the other a trophy and t-shirt company that bought a plotter when I no longer was willing to work with them (long story).
The other two sign shops do primarily vinyl only. What sets me apart from them is the 3D work, the multi-panel, gold leaf etc.
I just wanted to make sure I advertise myself with something that sets me apart from them.
Well..as if "Black Sheep Designs" wasn't indication enough!
-------------------- Shirley Carron Black Sheep Designs 184 John St. N. Arnprior,On.,Canada shirleyc@magma.ca 613-623-7053 Posts: 503 | From: Arnprior, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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Laughing at Dave)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Joe...I'm sure you make a lasting impression on those you do work for...you are a very colorful and memorable character...with a good...but somewhat warped...sense of humor...Letterville would not be the same without Joe...I still think your craziness could be the results of oxygen deprivation to the brain...you know from that time as a kid when your friends hung you just for fun.
-------------------- Bill'n'Annie Davidson Heathcote, NSW, Aus. my Aussie wife, a Toohey's Old, my Holden Ute, Retired from the rat race! Posts: 309 | From: Heathcote, NSW, Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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hey "SHER-BERT"..... iam 69 on social security....dont give 2 schits about the IRS...if they come after me THEY PROBABLY WILL WIND UP PAYING ME...........hahahahahahahaha. for the amount of work i do........iam not worth the trouble)))))) i love MY CAP LOCK.......iam a sign guy....still belive a banner should be ALL CAPS!!!!!!!! really p.o.'s me to see a banner with LOWER CASE letters as main copy. stupid arse printer dont know no better!!!!!!! thank you rusty.....you a piece of work.....on your own))))))))))
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))) Yep, mixed case is easier to read.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5396 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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SO YOU SAY.....sher-bert)))))))) the problem with LOWER CASE COPY....... for signs is easy to understand. ALL CAPS...... all words sit on the base line and top line....... lower case has 3-4 different base lines, TOP, d,b,h i line, then the base line for a,n,m,w,u,r,e,x,z..t, f, j, then p, q,g, y......are on another!!!!! QUICK AND EASY...... in all caps quick and easy in all lower Quick and Easy with cap begining.... by far the 1ST ONE is the easiest to read at a distance..... then you got word with g's in em take GOOGLE google Google again the 1st is the easy read.
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-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Those who "know" ( so they say ) and have studied this topic, abundantly, say that legibility increases 15%, when using ( properly ) upper and lower case, in the copy of a sign.
However, one of the ol' timers, from whom I learned, taught us that we should never use a line of lower case copy, with descenders ( g, j, p, q, and y ), on the bottom line of copy of a sign. We were taught to, always, use upper case on the bottom line of a sign.....Ironically, for better legibility of that bottom line.
How about that, Joe ? It would appear that you were partially right about the use of upper case.
On the other hand, Joe, here is a little publication on Sign Legibility Rules of Thumb:
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I've been doing new street signs that require the new standards. They look like crap in cap/Lower case. you can no longer center the body of the text on the metal.
Who ever came up with that should have thier eyes gouged out.
-------------------- Mike Duncan Lettercraft Signs Posts: 1328 | From: Centreville, VA | Registered: Oct 2000
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GO MIKEY)))) my point exactly...... i also was taught by "old school" guy. he did 2-3 different block letters, and a casual script of his own creation. and whenever he did a block lettered font...it was ALL CAPS....he drew 2 lines, top & bottom......and the rest was in between the lines, O's R's P's S's just a tad more above and below the lines.....always readable. heres one of his signs on my parents bar windows...he did the lettereing late 50's....pic was taken in 68-69. [IMG][/IMG]
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Joe was unmistakenly the most colorful kid in his high school class...known for his odd sense of humor and awesome mullet ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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we had you in our high school year book)))))) rusty WITH HAIR)))))))hahahahahahahahaha [IMG][/IMG]
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He has heavy equipment & I'm just waiting for one of his dozers to be somewhere I can safely sneak to it at night... I already converted the CAT logo file to say DOG. It WILL be changed without his knowledge so I can see how long it'll take him to notice.
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