It's just about 9pm and I'm about to start my 13th hour at work..so busy.
I'm planning on applying vinyl to copmpletely cover a piece of 65"x21" Nova (that prefinished plywood) I've seem many people install vinyl wet...I never have. What are the reasons for doing so? I have limited time to get this sign done and i don't want to screw this up as I go for the best possible finish.
Any advice?
Thanks
Gerald
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Gerald....Dry would be my choice. Just expose a small amount of your decal at one time, squeegee it down gently with a soft felt squeegee without pulling too hard or stretching your decal, then expose a bit more, a bit more and before you know it....whalla....you are done. Good luck.
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I do wet for translucent or transparent stuff, especially on glass, otherwise dry... What Susan says is right.
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WET ..IS A MISNOMER!!!!! when most hear that they think sopping WET!!!! RAPID TACK is about the best for this application. WET........meaning a "spritz" of RAPID TACK between the vinyl and the substrate!!!!! MY QUESTION TO YOU IS.......what kinda paint is on this "nova board."? did you repaint it? LATEX FLAT vinyl will not stick to. LATEX SATIN vinyl may stick LATEX GLOSS.......is you best of all latex. OIL BASED/AUTOMOTIVE PAINT are your best for vinyl to stick to.
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Time to revisit Rodger's videos OP. As Rodger says in his Rapid Tac application video, "you cannot apply too much Rapid Tac, but you can certainly apply too little." A spritz is going to trap air nearly as easily as applying dry will. Wet means WET... both substrate and vinyl.
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Like Dave....when doing wet, I soak both vinyl and substrate. Just misting them leaves areas that can stick too soon and trap air.
Make your vinyl a little oversized, soak both vinyl and substrate, lay vinyl down, and squeegee from the center out. Let it dry up a bit, and run a knife around the edge to trim the excess.
I would rather do it dry, and at this size, I would probably do it with a center hinge. Plywood seems to go down pretty easy.
I like wet when layering vinyl....lets you slide things around a bit. Printers have done away with most layering jobs unless it's specialty vinyls that I can't print, like metallics, etc.
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I'm with Tony. Anything wider than 24 inches and I'd consider applying wet, but at 21 inches wide, I've done that dry with the center hinge as Tony describes and it worked just fine.
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dave.........YOU AINT IN FLORIDA)))))) sometimes we have sunshine and humidity at 95%))))))))))
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ha. Humidity is no stranger here. In fact we have had 3 days in a row of 95 percent humidity. We're in a peninsula here with lakes all over the place. But what does humidity have to do with it? You're suppose to squeegee out all the fluid, not wait for it to evaporate.
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here........you get it to wet....only way to get it to stick is get out the heat gun/hair dryer. ask me how i know.))))))))))))
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Gets pretty humid here too....if doing wet on glass, it can take forever before you can peel the app. tape off. Lucky to get masking tape to hold the decal in place
Not a huge body of water, but I'm about a half mile from a lake with 1,500 miles of shoreline.
For me, dry whenever possible. Much quicker. I do use Rapid products and it dries up pretty quick after it gets squeegeed.
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here (15 miles from the gulf)i have sprayed PAINT, on something........and the HUMIDITY was so high the paint BLUSHED!!!!!! and the sun was shining)))))
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Anything/anyone would blush if Joe was in his speedos!
As far as wet vs. dry application... the choice comes with experience. If one is comfortable with and experienced with dry application that would be best. If one is kinda nervous do a totally wet application. Not a quick spritz. A totally wet application, and use Rapid Tac. Not some amatuer dish soap concoction.
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wow thanks for all this info (except the visions of speedos) I have always done it dry. I did hinge it but purposely with most of the material on one side. The Nova plywood was prefinished so the vinyl sticks very well to it. Thanks again, I will try wet someday. maybe just to practice as I do get frustrated with tiny bubbles and other flaws.
Cheers G
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