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HEY ....do i really give 2 schits??? it was back in the early 90's....apparently...they(corel) didnt give 2 schits either)))))))) and the version of X3 i have now..i BOUGHT from a web site...for under $100..........no discs no books.......makes me MONEY.....just like yours does........... http://www.evaluesoftware.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1549
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It's easy to find a thief ready to sell you something cheap OP, doesn't make it right or legal.
By the way, that link you put up is useless. I checked them out for you. That version is no longer available. X6 is but only academic version. OEM is for legitimate manufacturers.
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You know... trying to figure out ways to take advantage of a savings program not meant for you, OR at worst using pirated software, is kind of why the cloud is such an attractive business model to these companies. It's sad though because in the end the people that are good long time paying customers are forced into a program they don't want and aren't comfortable with, and the people that these new changes are supposed to stop, will just find another loophole and continue stealing or cheating.
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It's nice to see the software police are alive and well, and masquerading as sign makers. You must not have enough work to keep you busy. As long as someone is going to charge for something, someone will figure a way to steal it. The "Cloud" is no exception. And lets be honest, there's also an element of corporate greed associated to it.
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Joe, illegally installing software onto a computer is not a difficult concept to comprehend. I get that part. The part I don't get is where you think it's right to do so. Blame my mother for that.
quote:Originally posted by Dave Sherby: You're right Rick... same corporate greed that makes stores install security cameras to stop shoplifting. Greedy bas...ds.
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Thanks for the correction Don, I also put my opinion out, you just didn't like it. Just for the record, I've purchase all of my software. I do find it frustrating with all the upgrades, both software and operating systems, that don't play well together. Not to mention the tech support that demands money upfront only to point the finger at everyone else. The "Cloud" is just a way to create a monthly cash flow, but then again, they're counting on hard working folks such as yourself to drive their quarterly profits up. To each their own.
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The new definition of Corporate Greed: Developing and implementing a sustainable business model that helps to protect and ensure the jobs of the people you hire to create a product for you so you can sell it at a profit to people who use it to make a profit.
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Rick, the problem is that the old business models aren't sustainable. Subscriptions are a way to insure the long term viability of a company and it's product. I wouldn't call that Corporate Greed.
Again, it comes to not how much it cost but rather how much you money you make with it.
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Glenn, I do try to understand what your saying, please don't get me wrong. There's also the other side of the coin that a corporation puts a lot of energy into making money, bottled water and insurance comes to mind. Like everything there are good companies, and ones that want it all. I hear a lot about the plus and minus of the Cloud, it's just like renting or owning your own home. Some will tell you all the benefits to renting, others,why you should own. I guess it all comes down to personal choice.
quote:Originally posted by Glenn Taylor: Of course, no one complains about Big Beer.
All kidding aside, actually they do. Try opening your own brewing company and see what you are up against. If you ever want to see a great documentary, check out: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1326194/
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There's also another interesting documentary out there called "The Corporation" Here's a link to the trailer: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/ Like most documentaries, it's from the perspective of the film maker. But is is interesting.
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DON...none of the corles i had..WERE ILLEGAL. bought and paid for with a receipt. you are making statements that are false, just to hear yourself. like i said, IT WAS THE 90'S, seems corel didnt give 2 schits....what i did with the program after I PAID FOR IT)))))))))))))) and rick, thank you you seem to be the only other sensible person responding.
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for what I do, I can work all the way back to Corel 9 and still be good
X6 is OK, has some good stuff, etc., but nothing I can't do in Corel 9
But that's just me. I don't need a lot of options for what I do.
but what happens when Windows or whatever no longer supports the software?
Will we be required to start subscribing to software? hundreds of dollars a year to do the same thing I've done for 20 years with only minimal expenditures?
Some users, casual or professional, won't be able to justify the cost. I won't.
That's probably why so many casual users are now downloading free programs (or very inexpensive ones) to do vector work, paint effects, digital painting, etc. Adobe and Corel might already be losing large portions of their market.
sheeeshh
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like i said in an earlier post....I DONT UPGRADE TO EVERY NEW VERSION OF COREL. there is no need or reason to do this. the additions to any programs usually are not that big a deal. i have been a corel user since 92, version 3.0. i bought 4.0, when i got my 1st computer. i bought 5, and found out quickly it would not work to the plotter cause corel had leased the plotter communication code to another company & version 6 was also missing the code. i sold 5.0 to someone else and went back to using 4 till 7 came out. this was the biggest improvement in corel, as it increased the work space to 150 feet x 150 feet, and they put the plotter code back into it. version 8 was a combination of COREL & XARA. 9 had the best of corel for fonts. i bought 10. and then bought X3. maybe i will get X6.....but will wait to see whats new with the next version.
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joe, from what I've read, you can't go from x3 to x6. x3 is what I have along with xp and an ancient Roland plotter. I see the same crap I went through with win 3.1 looming in the future. I am soooooooooooooo glad I'm not locked into the technology.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"
And is what any one of us is acting like when we build our own machines. We build our own original equipment. We build our own machines such as screen print presses, cnc machines or some fancy tool we sue in our shops.
Thus, anyone who builds their own computer is an OEM manufacturer and can purchase OEM software all they want.
Yes I know someone will chime in with the old "it has to be built for resale" line. But that is a nonsense gray area.
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The impact of this metamorphosis into SaaS provider was apparent in Adobe's Q2 sales, which slumped ten per cent to $1.01bn as net profit dived 66.8 per cent on a year ago to $76.5m.
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george, you can run X6 ON XP. i had the trial version, and had it cutting to my roland. i just didnt see anything in X6, that made my job any simpler/faster/easier then what X3 DOES))) and like curt said, IF YOUR BUILDING COMPUTERS, then you are an OEM. i only bought 2 ready made computers.and they were laptops))))) every desktop i have owned was assembly and setup by me. TODD........mr perfect, at least i dont go to movie theaters and want to kill people for talking......is that the right thing you do???
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YOUTALKINTOME???? iam glad to make an impact on you))))
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