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I have this sign I'm putting a bid together for. The overall size is about 6 ft x 8t. The lady wants all new acrylic. But I can't get it in one piece. Si if I use 1 4' x 8' and 1 2' x 8' ya think it will stay nice? Should I put a stripe of white transluscent between the pieces? Or am I gonna have to have a sub-out a sign company to place a holding bar between the pieces? Yep, RJ's didn't make it very long.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3813 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Naw, it's a piece of cake. She's having the whole restaurant remodeled. I was going to have her construction team do the actual removing of the old sign and then the replacement of the new signs. Along with them putting up her sign of the front of her building. I am also going to steear her into repainting the post of her post sign along with getting all new matching light bulbs. Chit, I might even repaint the sign post myself if she provides me with a lift. The sign you see her is quite typical of the signs in my area. To try to change the whole sign would be like giving a wild racoon a cold bath. You're just gonna get scratched and bloody, ain't worth it.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3813 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Alicia, you're going to need a track (holding bar) between the two pieces. It is not a good idea just to sit a 4x8 piece of acrylic on top of a 2x8.
-------------------- Gary Boros SIGNWORKS STUDIOS LLC Monroe, Connecticut, USA Posts: 264 | From: Monroe, Connecticut, USA | Registered: Dec 2007
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I think I did faces for a bank when I lived in Florida. If I remember correctly they were about 6' x 10' pan faces. Not that you would get the faces from them but call Freddies Plastics ( if the're still in business ) 813-754-5567 and see if they make large faces . Not that you'll get them there, but maybe some company in your part of the world could help you. Good luck ! I hope area code is current for Plant City FL
-------------------- Tom Rose 1938 Model Sign Dude T.Rose Signs Whitehall,PA Posts: 327 | From: Whitehall,PA,USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Alicia, unless things have changed, you should be able to get 6 X 8 acrylic, in one piece. It's going to be very expensive and unwieldy; but like said above, I'd be dubious about sitting the larger face on top of the smaller one.
Also, if you decide to take this road, you need to get exact measurements of the cabinet, and have the faces cut to this size, by the supplier, to prevent the possibility of a stress crack. Actually, for strength purposes, you'd probably be better off to get a couple of pan faces made for it.
-------------------- Dale Feicke Grafix 714 East St. Mendenhall, MS 39114
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I have seen one done similarly- a 4x8 with a 2x8- they fused a 6" strip of the same material across the back seam- it wasn't lighted, so the seam didn't show- the seam was also the strongest part of the whole sign face
-------------------- Michael Clanton Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio 1933 Blackberry Conway AR 72034 501-505-6794 clantongraphics@yahoo.com Posts: 1735 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001
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Today I will work on getting a new face for that sign. I may sub out that part of the job.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3813 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Can you design the sign so that the 2x8 panel creates a natural seam, like maybe a reverse copy block. That way the seam wouldn't be so obvious. If you could put the 2x8 at the top instead of the bottom there will be less stress on the seam than the other way around.
-------------------- Jean Shimp Shimp Sign & Design Co. Jacksonville Beach, Fl Posts: 1266 | From: Jacksonville Beach, Fl. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ask for "Bear" and tell him Ricardo, from Oklahoma, sent you.
Good luck.
RD
P.S. --- Once you agree on the price, all you have to do is e-mail him your art work....They will take care of everything....They will even spray paint the faces backwards ( on the inside ) with lacryl paint, crate the faces and send them to your door step, in a very short amount of time.....The sign will look much better, this way.
NOTE: When taking the measurements for the size of the faces....Don't forget to allow, maybe two inches, around each face for THE LIP which will hold each face, in place, on the sign box.....If you do so, when designing the art work, keep in mind that you have eliminated, maybe, two inches around each face.....So, in reality, the size of each face is going to be reduced two inches all the way around each face.
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Pan face is the way to go. This sign most likely had one to begin with. A guy put a 6x8 plex in a box at a car dealership. First big storm....BLOWOUT. 2 sign faces spinning through the air. Damaged 6 brand new 50,000 dollar F250's.
Play it safe. Pan face. You'll need to know copy area, Draft, and Flange measurements. A quick bing search should getcha there on the lingo.
Best Regards.
-------------------- Mike Duncan Lettercraft Signs Posts: 1328 | From: Centreville, VA | Registered: Oct 2000
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...and you will eliminate the see through bulb lines on the sign. Plex faces sit 2 inches closer to the bulbs in a pan face sign than originally intended.
-------------------- Mike Duncan Lettercraft Signs Posts: 1328 | From: Centreville, VA | Registered: Oct 2000
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That's what I was trying to get at, above, Alicia. RJ's took the cheapo way (and most dangerous way out).
The sign probably looked like crap, when lit at nite. The can appears to be pretty narrow, and like Ricardo and mike said, probably had pan faces originally.
Don't know about there, but south, closer to the coast, the codes mandate pan faces with embossed letters......much stronger and safer. You don't want the liability.
-------------------- Dale Feicke Grafix 714 East St. Mendenhall, MS 39114
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The Mexican restaurant next door has a heckuva sign system going on there ... maybe you should talk to them after the job is done!!!
-------------------- Michael Gene Adkins The Fontry 1576 S Hwy 59 Watts OK 74964 Posts: 845 | From: Watts, OK USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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Mike, in our town, the Mexican restaurant is a fine example of the local "Sign Systems" up and down the boulevard. Pole sign with two changeable copy signs, banner poorly placed and the free beer flags, gonna knock em' dead. Not to mention the beautiful landscaping up and down the sidewalks (Weeds) Actually, the tall weeds hide the beer cans tossed out of people's windows. "It's a lovely day in the neighborhood"
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3813 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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The pan faces do sound good, I did a sign that was two pieces and welded a clear piece of acrylic 6" or so wide across the seam of two pieces. Then added a hanger bar and screwed the face to the cabinet.
-------------------- Jeff Wisdom SignWorks info@oregonsignworks.com Posts: 450 | From: Oregon | Registered: Dec 2005
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In view of "the sign system", in that neighborhood, I'll bet you could, also, kick ass with one sheet of 1/2 x 4' x 8' MDO, on each side.....if the owner of the business does not care about having internal illumination for the sign.....Then, you could join a 2' x 8' panel ( on each side ), under the 4' x 8', for the interchangeable letters section......I have done it and it works, especially, for people who don't want internal illumination.
RD
P.S. -- On looking, again, the truth is that the sign box looks kinda narrow ( in depth )and it seems that it does not create too much distance from the lamps to the face of the sign.....Thus, you might run into trouble, if you choose to use flat plexiglass faces.....It may allow the ghost of the lamps to be seen through the faces.
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I am curious why do you use a flat piece of Lexan
-------------------- aka:Cisco the "Traveling Millennium Sign Artist" http://www.franciscovargas.com Fresno, CA 93703 559 252-0935 "to live life, is to love life, a sign of no life, is a sign of no love"...Cisco 12'98 Posts: 3576 | From: Fresno, Ca, the great USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Got the measurement today,,6ft x 8ft. Gonna get a big old slice of polycarbinite.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3813 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Hey Alicia, I hope you're not going to be using a flat face; but if you are......since it's lexan, run a couple of stainless sheet metal screws through the top and bottom retainers, faces, and into the cabinet. This will help hold the faces in, in case of a big "blow".
And make sure those faces are 1/2 inch or so under your stated measurements. You don't want to be having to fight faces that big.
-------------------- Dale Feicke Grafix 714 East St. Mendenhall, MS 39114
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I'm putting a bid together for. The overall size is about 6 ft x 8t. The lady wants all new acrylic. But I can't get it in one piece. Si if I use 1 4' x 8' and 1 2' x 8' ya think it will stay nice? Should I put a stripe of white transluscent between the pieces? Or am I gonna have to have a sub-out a sign company to place a holding bar between the pieces?
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