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Anyone use this color lately? It should be called "Three Shot" because that's how many coats I have to use now to get it to cover. It's practically translucent. Didn't used to be this way.
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i got some of the "old stuff" was in a green labled 1-shot quart can. i think i got a life time(what i got left)supply. hahahahahahaha
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Just wait. It lasts one year for each coat... at best. We may be saved though. PPG bought One Shot and we can only hope they will restore it to it's past glory. PPG is no stranger to sign painting. They own Mathews paint which has been a standard in the sign industry for spraying long lasting polyurethane paint on architectural and electric signs.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5396 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I have one dark green sign that is still up, in the sun, no less....from 1979! The green is still holding up fine. The plywood has buckled and the corners are ragged, but the 'watch' is still ticking.
-------------------- Preston McCall 112 Rim Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 text: 5056607370 Posts: 1552 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998
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I didn't know PPG bought 1-Shot. Nobody tells me anything. In my stash of 1-Shot, I have an up-opened gallon of emerald green,,,,,with,, the ,,,lead still in it. One day, like a very fine old bottle of wine, I will open it and sniff it's aromas.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3813 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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We're doing several dark green boards now and tried using Ronan bulletin color. It requires a couple coats also, but does have a real nice solid gloss. I also like their color better than 1 shot, which is much bluer.
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus Posts: 6713 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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While I have several shelves of One-Shot, I do most of my sign backgrounds in urethane at a body shop. I also have found that coating with urethane clear is the longest lasting surface I can offer. i don't expect to be doing this for much longer (Signs) and I think it's just about over. They'll just wrap it.
-------------------- Gerald Barlow Artworx Turlock, CA
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Just a bit of trivia. PPG made bulletin enamels in the 40's and 50's as well as supplying resin and pigments to many small manufacturers. Every major manufacturer was making sign paint well into the 60's as a secondary line, some of which was just a private label fill. I too am hopeful that they will be able to use their resources to properly follow the formulae and correctly manufacture the paints.
-------------------- Kent Smith Smith Sign Studio P.O.Box 2385, Estes Park, CO 80517-2385 kent@smithsignstudio.com Posts: 1025 | From: Estes Park, CO | Registered: Nov 1998
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I haven't bought any new green lately but the 2 quarts of black I bought a few months ago has the consistancy of pudding. Does not flow well with a brush even with thinning. I too hope PPG will get One Shot back on track.
-------------------- Pam Eddy Niles, MI ple@qtm.net Posts: 460 | From: Michigan | Registered: Dec 2000
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Ronan also makes lettering enamels. They are not real easy to find as most suppliers carry One Shot lettering enamels and Ronan Bulletin colors. I get Ronan lettering enamels right from the factory. They seem to be as good as One Shot was right after they took the lead out.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5396 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I got tired of waiting around for 1-shot to improve. The last 5 years I patiently waited for a better product, but after having signs completely fade and change color, and having to re-do several jobs, my perspective changed. I love the logo and the yellow cans, but I find Ronan to be a cut above.
And Alicia, I also have some unopened cans of the old stuff with lead... but I just cannot get myself to use them. Like an old coin, it they just sit there.
-------------------- Curt Stenz Graphics 700 Squirrel Lane Marathon, WI 54448 Posts: 590 | From: Marathon, WI 54448 | Registered: Dec 1998
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I have a few cans with the lead too, probably because they are salmon pink and coral. I thought emerald green never had lead or maybe it was one of the first colors to go leadfree?
-------------------- Bill Reusch Reusch Sign Company 3258 80th. ave. Knapp, Wis. 54749 715-665-2647 Posts: 83 | From: Knapp, Wisconsin | Registered: Aug 2007
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Another thing with the dark green. when Chromatic and OneShot went together it wasn't long and the 1 shot looked more like Chromatics dark green. Ronans dark green seems to look like old 1 shot dark green.
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I have been getting some good quality product from Ronan, especially Japan colors.
On another note, about the time Spraylat merged Chromatic into the OneShot family, the last of the Chrome Green pigments went away for all manufacturers. I assume then that OneShot had to begin using the synthetic pigment we were using.
-------------------- Kent Smith Smith Sign Studio P.O.Box 2385, Estes Park, CO 80517-2385 kent@smithsignstudio.com Posts: 1025 | From: Estes Park, CO | Registered: Nov 1998
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I also have Benj Moore, Dutch Boy, Cook, Martin, Murphy, Blick, Acme bulletin, Sherwin Williams, Mobil, PPG, McMurtry, Valspar, Komac, Skoler, Mass. Paint, Reich, Kemp, and many others. All are put away in boxes but maybe I will photo them sometime in the next 10 years or so.
-------------------- Kent Smith Smith Sign Studio P.O.Box 2385, Estes Park, CO 80517-2385 kent@smithsignstudio.com Posts: 1025 | From: Estes Park, CO | Registered: Nov 1998
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I actually got a phone call this morning from a PPG guy who deals with 1-Shot! (I had emailed them with a string of recent paint failure problems.) It was prompted by a window job that took FOUR coats of Kool Krimson to achieve opacity.
I too am hopeful that PPG will put some new life into the sign coatings segment of their business. I told them I'd be happy if they just offered the 52 pre-mix 1-Shot colors in the Matthews formulation, but available in quarts and pints.
In the mean time, any suggestions on what I should do with the 52 cans of paint I've got in the paint cabinet?
(PS: yes, I'm back!)
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