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Dale Feicke
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Boy, I found a dandy advertising boo-boo. Check out the current PNC bank ad on TV. It's centered on retirement and planning for the future.

The ad portrays someone doing what is supposed to be ornate lettering, but the job he's doing, is totally wrong.

Can/or did you spot it? I know, most of us don't pay much attention to commercials, but this one really jumped out at me.

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Dale Feicke Grafix
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Mendenhall, MS 39114

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Rodger MacMunn
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Ill never see that ad, but one time, while watching Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman, I watched "Pacific Intermountain Express" ( PIE) climbing a mountain in the background with a Freightliner cabover & a set of A-trains. Other than that, it looked like 1890.

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Rodger MacMunn
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Is it this one,,, PNC Ad

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Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
Tacoma, WA
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Tim Barrow
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you want a list???????

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fly low...timi/NC is,
Tim Barrow
Barrow Art Signs
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Dale Feicke
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That's the ad, Alicia.

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Dale Feicke Grafix
714 East St.
Mendenhall, MS 39114

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brushing goldleaf))))))))

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
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Chuck Peterson
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The way they handle the brush I don't think they're retired sign painters.

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Chuck Peterson Designs
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Dale Feicke
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Check out the boat. Besides the fact that the "sign painter" obviously doesn't know how to deal with gold leaf (and is far too clean, by the way), does anyone else not see a problem with the way the job is done?

I'm taking the answer to Birmingham with me.

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Dale Feicke Grafix
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Elaine Beauchemin
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Advertising/marketing juggle with reality and perception of such...it is well known to master the art of playing with the truth.

[ March 22, 2013, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Elaine Beauchemin ]

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Élaine Beauchemin
scrip
Lettrage Scripsit inc.
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I just assumed it was the boat's owner lettering his own boat. Which he did a pretty good job of if that was the case.

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Brian Oliver
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What, you don't like the way the copy was done in a smiley arc? [Rolling On The Floor]

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Sam Staffan
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Dale Feicke
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You're gettin' mighty warm, Sam.


And Brian, I doubt very much that this is the boat's true owner, and this gentleman certainly did not do the lettering job.

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Dale Feicke Grafix
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I would say that most of the time the name of the boat goes on the back of the boat.

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Bruce Evans
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I'm going with the letters are arched in the wrong direction.

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Bruce Evans
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sometimes names are put on both sides of the bow of a boat. the reason for the reverse arch is the compound curve of the surface of the boat. it is curving right to left, and also arching out & in from top to bottom.....which will give you that look.

[ March 23, 2013, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
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I'm with OP on this, he is correct...boats have compound curves and reverse transoms. What looks strange from below the waterline usually looks just fine from above.

I remember lettering many sailboats where the name was on each side towards the stern. Due to the curves, I had to create a graphic that was different on both sides so that they looked the same from each side and from above the waterline. In some cases, with a 10' long name, the letter heights increased/decreased by 20% or more.

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Rigeline, determines the line of the lettering despite any arch top to lower area...

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Jack Wills
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Hey, That old fart looks like me! lol

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no jack. the 1st boat i did that way on the bow end, looked weird when i got done. its "comcave" "convex" curve happening at the same time....some boats are worse then others.like dave said if you dont compensate for the letters it wont look right.
was easier to do when painting, cause you can step back, and see which letter needs a little more or a little less top and bottom. you also get this problem on boats with a curved out center on the transom. the center letters will look bigger then the end letters. it can be as small as a 1/4 of an inch, added to height of the end letters but maks a big differance when seen at 20-30 feet away.

[ March 25, 2013, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: old paint ]

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
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Dale Feicke
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Pretty close, Joe; it does have to do with the compound curves of these types of boats. From top to bottom, they usually curve inward; and from left to right, they curve outward in the middle and inward on the ends.

Bruce had it right, about the arc of the letters on this particular boat being in the wrong direction. As it sits now, on blocks, they lettering is slanted downward toward the middle. Now imagine when the boat is in the water, four feet or more lower; the lettering arc will be much worse.

They lettering should've been done in a slightly positive arc, or slanting upward toward the middle, so that when the boat is lowered into the water, the lettering will "appear" straight and level.


Having done a couple hundred of these old classics, over the years, for a friend who restored them, it just jumped out at me.

I would say, also, that this is a terrible place to put a nice lettering job, on most any boat. First of all, it's most surely going to get bumped/ scratched/ abused on pulling in to a dock. It's just about at "that" height. Not all docks have bumpers available. Secondly, most states require the license number of the boat to be on either side of the bow area, near the top, which would put them pretty much above the name, done here. Too cluttered looking.

Anyhow, just havin' fun, keeping everybody straight. Thanks, all for the input, and pleasant boating!!!

[ March 25, 2013, 10:28 AM: Message edited by: Dale Feicke ]

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I was looking at the PNC actually, the thickness of the letters seems to be on opposites depending on the which letter (vertical), maybe its just me...I will take another look at the boat lettering people

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Deb Fowler

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The arch of the transom, not right, the convex on the right gardens sign not anywhere near convex or good shading, what else?

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Deb Fowler

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