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I am looking at switching over to more acrylic paint. I have tried Porter paint (a little pricey around here) Sherwin Williams, and a few others but was wondering about the Nova Color paint that we use for the walldogs murals.
I really liked using it on the murals but was wondering if anyone is using it on signs, HDU, PVC, aluminum/pvc panels, and ? I think Nova Color is based in California and has to be shipped from there. Is their anywhere else that it is available?
I'm collecting information so I can make the switch from oil-based to water-based. Will the black foam rollers work as well or do I need to try something else?
Ok, no more questions for now. Let me know what works for you and if you have tried Nova Color paint. Thanks!
Sign-cerely, Steve
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Steve, I would speak to Mark Fair and Dave Correll, both have had experience using the Nova on a variety of sign applications.
I am using more and more latex paints, mainly SW SuperPaint and Resilience line. You can buy quarts in the Resilience. I typically go with the satin finish. I highly recommend Mack 169 series water base quills.I always wet my quills before using I think it stops the paint from drying in the boot of the brush. I have taken to palleting the latex with Flotrol paint additive instead of water helps the paint flow off the brush in a more creamy manner. They are the ones with the black handles. Be prepared to double coat most colors.
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Brenda and I painted this one using Sherwin WIlliams Resilience Paint for the background and Nova Color for the rest. Lettering with Nova can be quite the challenge. Most of the lettering was masked off and required a second coat.
So far the sign is holding up well. By far better than the last one I painted with Lettering enamels.
The raw wood around the sign in this pic is just the easel...The Mucha girl was all painted but hand...mostly with Brush....flesh with airbrush. Look ma, no fumes!
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My experience with all the non oil based products so far has been far from desirable. If you ever find a can of old lettering color or bulletin paint and try swinging a brush with it you'll know the difference. It flows, it covers,it's fun. You can swing with it. It seems to have inspiration packed into the can. Letters swing and don't look so manipulated. We use the Nova mostly for pictorial work.
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Nova has a clearly marked opacity rating on each color. Be sure to watch this. About half of the pigments are transparent. I have used it for backgrounds on sandblasted signs with very good results. Jer
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Any tips on how you prefer to paint with Nova color paint? Can you spray it if you thin it or has anyone mastered using a paint roller with it? I used some Porter paint (black) on a background using the foam roller and was successful getting a smooth finish. It took alot more rolls back and forth to achieve a smooth finish but it is possible.
Hopefully the Nova paint can give a smooth finish when applied with a roller also. I'm curious to hear how some of you are working with it and what equipment you have had success using.
I appreciate the comments so far but was hoping for more suggestions. It must be because it's a weekend and not everyone stops by Letterville until Monday!
Sign-cerely, Steve
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We use General acrylic house paint for pretty much all of our work save for then we need metallics. Then we use Modern Masters paints and I absolutely love them!
General Paint is only available in Canada however. I've used Porter paints when I've done murals in the US and have liked it.
The price of paint never bothers me. I'd much rather pay a little more and cover in two coats than spend more on time. Paint spreads a long way compared to many things. I am much more worried about longevity and coverage.
Availability would be a factor in my choice in paint. I can get the colors I need in twenty minutes locally. Modern Masters needs to be ordered a week in advance locally so I keep a fair inventory and a good selection on hand.
-grampa dan
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I've heard that Modern Masters is good paint. I will have to see where it is available around my area. So Modern Masters have metallic paints? I can see that would be a plus for some of my projects. Thanks Dan!
Sign-cerely, Steve
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Modern Masters also makes an acrylic scenic paint that is color fast. Disney uses it. I've tried it and it goes on much like Nova colors.
Just go to the Modern Masters web site and go to the dealer locator.... easy as that.
-grampa dan
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Thanks Dan! I went to the website to find a location of a dealer and found one about a mile and a half from my shop! That's convenient. I plan to drop in today and see what they have. I also have a Sherwin Williams dealer about a half a mile from my shop. Looks like I should be fine getting what I need. I still would like to hear what techniques work best for these paints. Spray verses rollers? Other tips or tricks to getting a good smooth coat? Yes I do have Flortrol and not afraid to use it. Thanks everyone for your advice.
Sign-cerely, Steve
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Steve, I've used Porter AcriShield for years. I don't consider paint a major cost, other than I have to buy it while on holidays & carry an inventory. It's easy to work with, you can letter with it & it's great for pictorials. I use satins. I know nothing about the other Sherwin Williams lines, but SuperPaint is only available in gallons. If you're over 6 years old, you're not going to live long enough to use a whole gallon in some colours.
If you can find Wagner FlowEasy, it works better than Floetrol if you're using it with a quill.
If you do many pictorials, you'll soon wonder why you stuck with 1-shot as long as you did. Plus now, you won't have to repaint it in 2 or 3 years.
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Thanks Rodger, I did like the Porter paints when I used them and I have done a few pictorials in the past, but was using 1-shot back then. You are right about having to repaint in 2 or 3 years! That is why I am asking for advice on Acrylic latex paints. I'm tired of the problems that I've had with 1-shot fading and of course the clean up mess. I haven't heard of Wagner FlowEasy so I will check that out. Thanks!
Sign-cerely, Steve
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Talk to some of the guys at the next Walldog event and you should be able to get a LOT of info on Nova. We use it all the time and the last meet and the next are all Nova. Bill really likes it.
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Steve, I have been told that Rustoleum's Metallic Accents (available at Menard's and other such places) is the same paint as Modern Master's metallic paints but with more extender added.
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Wow Joy thanks for the tip on Rustoleum metallics. I wonder if they are owned by the same company. Nice Welcome sign! That must have been a challenge painting that little "w" on Howard! Did you use a toothpick? Pick a thicker stroke font next time! I'm sure you have thought of that already.
Sign-cerely, Steve
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Thanks guys! Steve, I think I did use a toothpick on that letter! The font got thinned a bit to much when I did this on my Carvewright. That was before I was able to use a dxf file for carving. Next time it should be thicker!
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Pick a thicker stroke font next time! I'm sure you have thought of that already.
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