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said he could "legally" carry.......searched his south Minneapolis home, where they found another gun and packaging for 10,000 rounds of ammunition. parent said he had a history of mental illness...... no red flags here????????
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Legally carry or not, no one needs 10,000 rounds of ammunition. That is the disturbing part.
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People kill people. If they don't have guns, they'll find a way. A murderer will bash you over the head with a rock if that's all he has available. Blaming the NRA is stupid.
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However...if a guy walks into a McDonalds with a bag of rocks...and with the intent to kill as many people as he can with them...how many people can he kill.
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BTW, Si is amazing with that shotgun! I've seen him in action and he doesn't miss those clay pigeons very often. As I recall, he might have missed one or two in an entire afternoon!
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Just think of how this story ends if just one person was carrying a conceal pistol at work - the UPS driver would be the best candidate, as he is at risk of robbery in his travels. Would have been a different outcome.
Pickett may think people who own guns are nuts... but I say people who want other people to be sitting targets for a kook, druggie, or gang-banger are the crazy ones.
I was printing t-shirts late at night recently in my buddie's shop where I have my equipment.... small rural town.... heard a door slam in another room, which shouldn't have occurred because everyone was gone but me. I got spooked, called 911 and explained a door had slammed open against an interior wall in the office section of his building... I spied it through the shop door's window.... took the cops literally 25 minutes to get there. They searched the place, and found nothing - so it is a head-scratcher.... but in any event. IF there WAS an assailant breaking in and he came into the shop - I'd be dead (didn't have my CC on me).
Ideology like Pickett's would create more suffering than what we have our 2nd Amendment Freedoms. In fact, if you look at the stats, it proves it out. States with the most restrictive gun laws have the most violent crime.
If more decent law-abiding citizens carried guns, the loon that pulled one out at a McDonald's would be the only victim.
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Since the stand your ground law took effect here in Florida.
Gun & violent crimes have gone down
Been many cases where a robbery or a beating is taking place here in Florida & either the shop keeper or a good customer or whoever defends there self with positive results with use of gun.
When good people are not aloud to protect them self's only criminals will win & carry guns.
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Rusty, if I wanted to kill a bunch of people in a McDonald's, I cd do it without a gun and at a cheaper price.
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Hey guys...go back and read...I wasn't the one who brought up "rocks" in the first place...I only responded back to Don"s use of the "rock" to illustrate his point...I did not think it a valid argument.
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You know I just back from Walmart...got to say there were some pretty odd looking characters in the store...some looked really loony...to think that they all were "packing heat" for their protection would not make me feel safer...in fact it would make me feel less safe...but that's just me.
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The mere mention of "gun control" sends the NRA supporters into a frenzy. I own several guns, but I don't carry them around with me and I see nothing wrong with tighter regulations to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and nutjobs. Constitution or not, some people should NOT have guns.....
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67 years, i have been around. NO CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMIT. amazing iam still alive huh????HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA didnt own a gun till 2007. and got that when i was having to wear a leg bag and catheter. the gun sits in the drawer in my bedroom....... HAS NEVER BEEN FIRED.......... YOU....create your own fears.....and ways YOU THINK will keep them at bay. like i said in my 1st post... 10,000 ROUNDS OF AMMO, parents said he had a history of mental illness.... and then he BOUGHT GUNS???? id say the laws on gun ownership are not tight enough. as for all you who think you can protect yourself from YOUR GOVT, you live in a fantasy world. this is what YOUR TAX DOLLARS BOUGHT)))))) you, and your buds with ak-47, m-16 DONT STAND A SNOWBALLS CHANCE....against this: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/9609/
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This may interest you. > > > > My old grandpa said to me son,' there comes a time in every man's life > when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and usually it's > when he becomes too old to take a whoopin'. > I don't carry a gun to kill people. > I carry a gun to keep from being killed. > > I don't carry a gun to scare people. > I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place. > > I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid. > I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world. > > > I don't carry a gun because I'm evil. > I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the > world. > > > I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. > I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government. > > > I don't carry a gun because I'm angry. > I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating > myself for failing to be prepared. > > > I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. > I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and > not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon. > > > I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy. > I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a > cowboy. > > > I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man. > I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves > and the ones they love. > > > I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate. > I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am > inadequate. > > > I don't carry a gun because I love it. > I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful > to me. > > Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. > Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the > crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess. > > > Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to > take a whoopin > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A LITTLE GUN HISTORY > > > In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, > about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded > up and exterminated. > ------------------------------ > > In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 > million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and > exterminated. > ------------------------------ > > Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total > of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves > were rounded up and exterminated. > ------------------------------ > > China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million > political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and > exterminated > ------------------------------ > > Guatemala established gun control in 1964. >From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 > Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and > exterminated. > ---- ------------- ------------- > > Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 > Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and > exterminated. > ------------------------------ > > Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one > million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up > and exterminated. > ----------------------------- > > Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century > because of gun control: 56 million. > ------------------------------ > > It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by > new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by > their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than > $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: > > List of 7 items: > > Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent. > > Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. > > Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! > > In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 > percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the > criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! > > While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in > armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in > the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey > is unarmed. > > There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of > the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how > public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense > was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The > Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. > > You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians > disseminating this information. > > Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, > gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. > > Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! > > The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind > them of this history lesson. > > With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. > > During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they > knew most Americans were ARMED! > > If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message > to all of your friends. > > > The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in > defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is > more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is > supplemental. > > > SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT > TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN > RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! > > > IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX > DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET. > > > > I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment! >
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Gun crime is out of hand in the UK. Handguns are banned and yet people are murdered nearly every day.
Here in Sydney there is a drive-by shooting nearly every day. Arrests are rare. A year or so ago a driver was killed when a stray bullet fired by a group having an arguement in a KFC struck him in the neck. They dropped the murder charge in preference to manslaughter and gave the guilty party a few year sentence.
Calls for mandatory sentences for firearm crimes are ignored however shrill calls for further gun control erupt with every incident.
W.R. Pickett blames the NRA. Why? Guns have been available in the US for century's and yet this spree-killing idea is only a recent thing. Blaming the NRA holds no water.
10 000 rnds of ammo is maybe a lot to the once a year hunter who uses a packet to sight in his rifle and a half a dozen shots while in the wood, but for a semi-serious competitive shooter it's not that much. And you should be able to get a discount for buying in bulk.
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quote:I see nothing wrong with tighter regulations to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and nutjobs. Constitution or not, some people should NOT have guns.....
Is it legal in your state for criminals and the mentally ill to own or be in possession of guns?
If not, why is there a need for tighter controls?
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Rusty, I believe that everybody who agrees with my point of view makes good and reasonable remarks when controversial such as this are brought up, too.
Funny how that works.
(Sonny does tend to be level-headed, though.)
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If I carried a gun I probably would trip and shoot myself in the leg....I had known an older lady who was a seamstress in Ft. Lauderdale but she was in her early 80's then. I used to visit her as we would do a little crocheting and shooting the breeze. She lived in a house that was 3 miles from the beach and said she was there when she could see the beach from her house before the building and this lady was a real tough cookie. One night she called me and said she thought someone was at her screen door and she got up and pulled her gun and accidentally shot herself in the leg. Another time, I was in bed in my next apartment and the neighbor shot through the wall but went the other direction through my other neighbor's closet wall and right through her favorite red dress. Wow, and that is the civilized part of Fort Lauderdale.
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the 2nd amendment was put in place in 1791. NOW THE OTHER PART OF THIS.... the level of armament technology OF THAT TIME. 1791, rifle was a SINGLE SHOT, POWDER BALL AND CAP. 1st cartridge guns, came to be 1856. AND in those days....EVERY BODY HUNTED animals for food. most people today, even those who have guns, HAVE NO IDEA OF HOW SKIN OUT AND FIELD DRESS A DEER. BUT THEY GOT AN AK-47 or M-16))))))))))))
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I have a license to carry, but I have it to legally carry a gun & be protected while I hike & paint in the woods. My mom says she's more worried about me meeting bad people in the woods than bad animals.
I agree with Sonny too. Some nuts shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
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