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I've got a lot of friskets, and I don't want to wait for the paint to dry/cure. What should I do?
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-------------------- Mark Bachman Bachman Studio Great Barrington, MA USA http://www.signart.pair.com Posts: 83 | From: Great Barrington, MA, USA | Registered: May 1999
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If it was me, I'd say Krylon (essentially some kind of lacquer base) and enamel (essentially non-lacquer) are very incompatible...and will lead to peeling, shrinking, crocodiling, and I would not be trying to combine both. One, or the other.
You may get away with fogging the stuff on lightly & letting each coat dry thoroughly, to build up a sort-of protective layer, but, you will have to WAIT, and you said you don't want to do that!
Perhaps others might like to correct my opinions, but if it were me, I'd be using Krylon, OR enamel, and not trying to have both of them touch.
As far as friskets or paint mask- you will have to wait for things to dry before putting something over something else. Try a heat gun or a fan to help speed things up a bit, but I find speeding things up a bit can also help undo them, sometimes, and can backfire on you. There are limits to the tricks you can try...
Good luck!
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I beleive you can paint enamel over top of dry Krylon.....but you cannot paint Krylon (lacquer) over top of enamel as it will eat the enamel...like Ian said, friskets don't sound like an option for you. Good luck.
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Yep, I had to learn that lesson the hard way - don't use Krylon on 1 Shot - period. If you're in a hurry, urethanes like House of Kolor dry almost instantly.....
-------------------- www.signcreations.net Sonny Franks Lilburn, GA 770-923-9933 Posts: 4115 | From: Lilburn, GA USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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old time car painter.....learned this quickly. ENAMEL OVER Lacquer NEVER THE OTHER WAY ROUND!!!!
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Mark, mix the color you want with OneShot. Thin it slightly with some Turps and a few drops of Japan Dryer and spray with an Preval aerosol sprayer.
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Is the damage done by lacquer over enamel apparent quickly, or only after some time has passed?
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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Krylon is not lacquer. It is (was) essentially spray acrylic enamel. it had a very hot base to it and would crinkle OneShot within seconds.
Ask me how I know.
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the problem with KRYLON, is it has a tad of MEK. A lot of spray cans do this because the spray pressure that comes out of a can is no way near what an automotive/industrial spray gun applies paint to a surface so it can bond/bite. you are basically just laying a thin coat down. MEK, in a small amount wont hurt any paint, it will cause a "bonding" effect buy softening the surface under what you are spraying. then as quick as it softened the under paint, the high evaporation rate of MEK starts outgassing the paint and this makes it dry quick. now if you lay on a heavy coat......it can have the opposite effect.......of wrinkling the paint under it. thats why LIGHT COATS...5-6-7 of em.....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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By "Krylon Spray" I assume you all are talking about "Krylon Crystal Clear Acrylic Coating". Glossy, #1303. As an experiment, today I sprayed a very heavy coat of it over an area of 1-Shot Black that was painted a couple months ago. No problem at all with it affecting the 1-Shot. Maybe the troubles you all mentioned were due to topcoating the 1-Shot shortly after it was touch-dry but not dry-thru?
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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I should have said Krylon Spray ***over*** 1-Shot Enamel Lettering Color. Thanks to your feedback, I didn't use Krylon and used 1-Shot instead. Thanks again to all of your feedback!
-------------------- Mark Bachman Bachman Studio Great Barrington, MA USA http://www.signart.pair.com Posts: 83 | From: Great Barrington, MA, USA | Registered: May 1999
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Lacquer over fresh enamel is what customizers done in the mid 50's for a cracked eggshell look on hardtops, still done today for a special look using two colors
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