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with the hoopla bout NY banning oversized fountain drinks, i thought i would tell ya what i got for my BIRTHDAY may 20th. hennie bought me a SODASTREAM soda maker. i know most of you old guys remember the 3 stooges and vaudeville type comedians that used those carbonated water drink mix bottles to squirt each other with. the advent of the "home bar" these was popular with folks that made mixed drinks. ive had a couple over the years but the tiny CO2 cartridge for air powered bb guns was a pain to find and they didnt last long. this thing is awesome. it uses a 10-12" tall CO2 canister, replacment is bout $20-$25, supossed to make like 5-6 cases(24 count)of canned soda. no corn syrup, real sugar in the flavoring, and you can use a little of it,so it isnt so damn sweet. http://www.sodastreamusa.com/
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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I cd be wrong,but I thought a CO2 canister was something you had refilled for a small price. Same thing the soda fountains use for making ice cream sodas, etc.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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ok- I tried one at a "bath and body works" store, and it was really cool, but all of the flavors that they had only contained artificial sweeteners, which I absolutely hated the aftertaste. If they have flavors that contain real sugar, it might be a good deal for our house
-------------------- Michael Clanton Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio 1933 Blackberry Conway AR 72034 501-505-6794 clantongraphics@yahoo.com Posts: 1736 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001
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dennis, you can refill em or buy new. where you buy em they will give you $1-2 bucks for empty. the tanks for this one are $20-25 range. you can adapt the machine to work off 10-20 pound commercial canisters. one tank is supposed to give you 5-6(24 can)cases of soda.heres a 20 pound adapter video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt9v1LYRdVY&feature=related michael, the sample pack i got with mine, NO ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS. the sugared flavors, are all natural sugar.
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-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Funny that I'm listening to a revered health expert saying that the proof is there that the main reason our diet causes heart disease, cancer, and of course diabetes is sugar, not complex carbs, not saturated fat, but sugar. At least you can reduce the sugar with that soda maker.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5400 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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THAT IS MY POINT DAVE!!!! in the manual is says add a capfull of the flavoring. i use less then a 1/4 capfull.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Dave, I'm 80 now and I've been eating LOTS of sugar all my life -- regular sugar, corn syrup, molasses, honey, chocolate, etc., etc. -- and I have no heart trouble, cancer, or diabetes. All my blood test levels are normal except that my blood pressure is a wee bit high. I'm 5 ft 10 but weigh i50. And BTW I've smoked since I was 14 -- started when I was in the Boy Scouts and found it was the only way to keep the mosquitoes off -- and I dont do any exercise other than my normal activity. I dont put much stock in the scientists' statistics. Maybe the people who have trouble with sugar are the ones who never eat vegetables, or the ones who are always ****ed about something, or whatever. Heck, maybe the reason sugar doesnt bother me is because I'm a smoker.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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No doubt there is always an exception to the rule. Lucky for you Dennis that you are the exception. When I used to smoke I always wondered if I would be one of those able to live well into my 80's or one of those that had to have half their throat ripped out or worse yet die young from cancer. I didn't like the odds of being one of the lucky ones so I quit.
Edit: I usually comment on this when I get comments like yours about how they eat and how old they are. Your smoking habit aside, our rotten, chemically laden, sugar stuffed food was never as unhealthy as it has become in the last 10 years. When you eat today's garbage and make it 80 years, THAT'S when I'll be impressed.
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Best to trust the medical findings on health and nutrition...there are indisputable scientific facts on the subject...to deny them would be like denying gravity or that the earth revolves around the sun.
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EAT RIGHT EXERCISE and still you will die)))))
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Well, I dont know how one person can be the exception to so many rules. unless the rules are not all they're cracked up to be. There are now even people who are scared to death of "third hand smoke". If you're unfamiliar with that one, it comes, for instance, from being too close to a smoker on the street even tho he's not smoking at the time. I do agree with you tho, Dave, about the adulterated food these days.
-------------------- dennis kiernan independent artist san francisco, calif, usa Posts: 907 | From: san francisco, ca usa | Registered: Feb 2010
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and I am convinced it is not the sugar that is the culprit but the substitution for sugar of high fructose corn syrup. I was a soda manufacturer in the 60s and we used real sugar. We did not have the obesity epidemic back then.
-------------------- Jerry Starpoli Starpoli Signs... since 1952
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It's not the high fructose corn syrup itself, it's the massive quantity people are consuming.
In the 60's, people didn't drink 44oz soda pops with 3 meals a day and HFCS wasn't as widely used as a preservative in processed foods like it is today. You can not buy a processed item that doesn't have HFCS or other sugar added to it.
HFCS has a 55/45 fructose:glucose ratio versus 50/50 for sucrose, and other than HFCS being an invert sugar that won't crystallize (ie it stays liquid), it's chemically identical to sucrose. Since it's invert and liquid the body doesn't have to produce sucrase to break the bond of the fructose/glucose so the sugar hits the bloodstream about 30 seconds faster, but besides that, the body processes HFCS the same as it does sucrose.
Then you have all these weenies pushing for people to swap out sugar/HFCS for things like honey or agave nectar. They're STILL sugar, it's right on the label! Chemically it's the same stuff, it just comes from a different source of revenue for someone else's pocket. If you swapped it out 1:1 you'd still consume the same amount and you'd go broke doing it.
The obesity problem is due to increased calorie intake thanks to the proliferation of easy access inexpensive calorie-laden food, and the shift to more sedentary workplaces and lifestyles. Even if someone works a 12 hour factory shift, that simply can not offset the 4,000-5,000 calories consumed by someone who may be eating out twice a day because they're short on time. Take away the factory job and put that same person behind a desk, it gets even worse.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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Jerry, it is the sugar and Mike hit it on the head. It's the massive quantities of sugar that has changed everything. Cancer loves sugar, diabetes comes from too much sugar. We didn't have the obesity, cancer, and diabetes back then because a soda was an occasional treat, not a staple with every meal. Back then we had milk or water to drink with our meals.
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Funny how so many things available to us these days, are supposedly BAD for us, and the things we used to consume were better. That kinda flys in the face of actuarial statistics that indicate that we now have a generally LONGER lifespan. If you have any doubts regarding the population living longer, just check with the administration of Social Security, or any major insurance company. The prospect of many individuals living longer than in generations past, directly affects the payouts that those organizations must make, so they're well aware of the aging trend, and it's financial reprecussions.
-------------------- Ken Henry Henry & Henry Signs London, Ontario Canada (519) 439-1881 e-mail: kjmlhenry@rogers.com
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for our ingestion of sugar, that we can control, we use STEVIA. we make iced tea with it, use it on cereal or anything we make and that can add sugar to. we also GROW OUR OWN!!!! the finished product we make is not white, like that you buy. we pick the leaves, let them air dry, then crush them in a motar & pestal. this creates a fine greenish brown powder. add to cereal or ice tea, you cant tell the diferance between it and cane sugar.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Oh Ken, average lifespan may be going higher but that doesn't mean people are any healthier or happier.
Plus, statistically speaking, average lifespans have always been calculated with infant mortality rates factored into them. Long time ago lots of infants died which of course decreases average lifespan, but nowadays fewer babies die thanks to the aftercare available to us now, so average lifespan climbs.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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I know too much of anything can be bad for you-- but I really hate substituting chemicals (like some of the artificial sweeteners and artificial preservatives) for just natural stuff-- I use local raw honey a lot, it doesn't take very much of it to sweeten something (much less than common sugar) and although I don't have concrete proof, I think the pollen in the local honey helps the immune system with some allergies... maybe not, but I still love honey and molasses!
I think most of the soft drinks of the past used cane sugar, because it was cheap- then they started using corn syrup because it was cheaper-- I noticed the past couple of years a few times they have rebranded a few soft drinks back to using cane sugar "Pepsi ThrowBack", "Mt. Dew Throwback" a version of "Dr. Pepper" etc.-- I guess the cane sugar became cheaper again
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