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I've just gilded a 30" x 40" heavily textured picture (actually mirror) frame. I used 18k gold leaf on 12 hr. LeFrancs size. Being less than 23k, i'm told that i'll need to give it a clear to prevent tarnishing. suggested to used either 1shot quick size(just let it dry hard) or 1shot gloss tinting clear...
...what about 1Shot Sign Restoring Clear??
anybody used this, with success??
thank you..
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The only problem I see with the frame being kept inside out of the elements is the varnish turning yellow over time but if that happens you can always suggest keeping it near a window in the sunlight
edited to add the tinting clear or restoring clear should do just fine,...now I have an old pint of chromatic clear to back up glass gold that hasn't been opened here but ya ain't getting that,...saving it for that one special job when it comes calling,....
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as it will, Tim! that will be the one when the customer says, "you know what you're doing, do it nice, , nah, don't need an invoice, will just give you ca$h...
hey, you gave me 2 grumbacher brown quills, turkey quill ferulle sp? real LONG HAIRED...when we were at Shep's wood graining back in '04 ...and I used them both for the first time last week, they worked like a Charm!!! pulling outlines forever!!
will used the restoring clear...
Stein, what is bleached shellac?
thanks....john
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John, bleached shellac also known as white shellac has no (or little) color to it. Amber shellac has a yellow/orange color. I've gilded hundres of frames and have always used shellac as a top coat. The bleached, white or clear shellac can also be tinted with pigments if needed.
Mike
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BTW I have used a bunch of these and more, one further suggestion is to use an automotive urethane clear with hardner that you can brush on. Advise us on your final choice. Cheers Posts: 97 | From: Summerland BC | Registered: Mar 2009
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The story of shellac or also known as Shell-Lac is made from the resin on bayberry trees that some insects get stuck into. Clear is called WHITE SHELLAC as Mike Simpson pointed out. Why? Who knows. It sure is not white? It is alcohol thinned, not mineral spirits or water, therefore makes as a great gloss varnish for flexible things, like leather...ergo patent leather. Got to clean the brushes with denatured alcohol. Nice smelling stuff, compared to the others. It is also used extensively in refinishing and original finishing of fine furniture. It does hold up well as a clear varnish and I have even had luck with it exposed to exterior conditions. Not as good as catalyzed clear auto urethane, though. I mean, think....what do the car companies use to clear coat vehicles with that have to stand up to the elements?
I would be very curious if anyone knows the various brands and qualities of these urethane clears. Obviously Mercedes uses a much finer grade than the domestic manufacturers as they do hold up much, much longer. Is it the cure? How about government usage or military? Anyone here know the real answer to what clear really does hold up the best????
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I used chear shellac, Zinsser brand. Thanks for all your input, and will watch for the "best" clear for automotive work.
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Preston, most of the catalyzed automotive clears are pretty good quality.
Remember that the paint on most new cars is tissue-paper thin, so the clears have to be very tough, to prevent damage.
Years ago, we used Martin-Senour paints at the shop, with Tec-Base being their version of base coat/clearcoat. The clear worked very well; it was easy to color sand and buff out, if desired.
Glasurit is European and works very well, and I'm sure there are others that have come on the scene recently.
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