Letterville Bull Board Letterville | Bull Board
 


 

Front Page
A Letterhead History
About Us
Become A Resident
Edit Your Database Info
Find A Letterhead

Letterville Merchants
Resident Downloads
Letterville BookShop
Future Live Meets
Past Meets
Step-By-Steps
Past Panel Swaps
Past SOTM
Letterhead Profiles
Business Cards
Become A Merchant

Click on the button
below to chat with other
Letterville users.

http://www.letterville.com/ubb/chaticon.gif

Steve & Barb Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, ON, Canada
N1M 1G9

Phone: 519-787-2892
Fax: 519-787-2673
Email: barb@letterville.com

Copyright ©1995-2008
The Letterhead Website

 

 

The Letterville BullBoard Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile login | search | faq | calendar | im | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» The Letterville BullBoard » Letterhead/Pinstriper Talk » Light and Surdy Letters

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Light and Surdy Letters
Alicia B. Jennings
Resident


Member # 1272

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Alicia B. Jennings   Email Alicia B. Jennings   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I've got a customer who I may do a job for him on his "Outisde Fake Stone Wall" The owner of the building dones't allow any holes to be drilled. So I have suggested foam/wood letters glues to the building. Should I go with ?. I need light, bird proof, paintable letters. I may hand cut the letters because of the type of font that is used,,,a grungy, distressed font. I was thinking maybe 1" urethane foam for lightness. but maybe 3/4 in" MDO might last longer. Or maybe, that board that has metal on the outside, wood on the inside. I think it's called ?? Lusterboard, Ultraboard, you know what I mean. I was even thinking of bead foam board stuccoed over, but the birds. And then there is the moss factor here in the Northwest.

--------------------
Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
Tacoma, WA
Since 1987
Have Lipstick, will travel.

Posts: 3814 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Neil D. Butler
Resident


Member # 661

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Neil D. Butler   Email Neil D. Butler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Stay away from lustreboard, it is absolutely useless... will delaminate, at least the older stuff that I used did. Can't use DiBond can you?

--------------------
"Keep Positive"

SIGNS1st.
Neil Butler
Paradise, NF

Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Tony McDonald
Resident


Member # 1158

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Tony McDonald   Email Tony McDonald   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
+1, both times I've used lusterboard, it has delaminated, even with the edges sealed with titebond wood glue.

--------------------
Ace Graphics & Printing
Camdenton, MO. USA

acegraphics1@sbcglobal.net

Posts: 1196 | From: Camdenton, MO. USA | Registered: Oct 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Preston McCall
Visitor
Member # 351

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Preston McCall   Author's Homepage   Email Preston McCall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Dibond will hold up well. Lusterboard does delam and requires intense edge sealing. Have never seen 3/4" dibond or the less expensive version, but maybe it is out there? You might find someone who can rout/cut it easier than playing with the band saw or scroll saw. That would save you hours.

--------------------
Preston McCall
112 Rim Road
Santa Fe, New Mexico
87501
text: 5056607370

Posts: 1552 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
John Arnott
Resident


Member # 215

Icon 1 posted      Profile for John Arnott   Email John Arnott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey girl, I thought you bought a ShopBot.

--------------------
John Arnott
El Cajon CA
619 596-9989
signgraphics1@aol.com
http://www.signgraphics1.com

Posts: 1443 | From: El Cajon CA usa | Registered: Dec 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Brian Stoddard
Visitor
Member # 39

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Brian Stoddard   Author's Homepage   Email Brian Stoddard   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
1" 15lb HDU is what I would use, light enough to silicone to the wall but tough enough to last.

--------------------
Brian Stoddard
Northwest Wholesale Signs

brian@nwsigns.com
www.nwsigns.com

Posts: 790 | From: Redmond, WA | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dave Draper
Visitor
Member # 102

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Dave Draper   Email Dave Draper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
HDU, sanded and finished with Sherwin Williams Super Paint

11 or 13 mm Sintra (or equal) spray painted with Sherwin Williams Super Paint or equal)

Those would be my two choices.

Glue: GE Silicon II PREMIUM (gold tube, and caulking gun.

--------------------
Draper The Signmaker / Monumental Designs
http://www.monumentaldesigns.com

Posts: 2883 | From: Bloomington Illinois USA | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
W. R. Pickett
Visitor
Member # 3842

Icon 1 posted      Profile for W. R. Pickett   Email W. R. Pickett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Surdy letters can be a challenge to make.

--------------------
WR Pickett
Richmond, Va.

Posts: 1955 | From: Richmond, Va. | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Sonny Franks
Resident


Member # 588

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Sonny Franks   Email Sonny Franks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
1/2" or 3/4" PVC (Sintra).....

--------------------
www.signcreations.net
Sonny Franks
Lilburn, GA
770-923-9933

Posts: 4115 | From: Lilburn, GA USA | Registered: Feb 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
goddinfla
Visitor
Member # 1502

Icon 1 posted      Profile for goddinfla   Email goddinfla   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Drilling holes is easier to patch later. Once glue of any kind is on a fake stone wall it is forever there in the shape of the long gone letters.

--------------------
Dennis Goddard

Gibsonton Fl

Posts: 1050 | From: Tampa Fl USA | Registered: Apr 2000  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Steve Luck
Resident


Member # 5292

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Steve Luck   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Luck   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hey Alicia,

I think you should get ¾" PVC (Sintra) which will be less expensive than HDU and still light enough for the wall. I've had good luck with construction adhesive using sintra. Even if your Shopbot was up and running, it still is fun cutting them out by hand with a scroll saw or jig saw! Depending on how many letters you have to cut, it won't take you that long by hand.

By the way, I got your message last week and didn't get a chance to call you. My Shopbot was running and then the motor stopped and I had to send it off to get repaired. I have another motor for backup and will have it working soon.

Hope you get yours going too. It's a whole new world in the sign business with a CNC router!

Sign-cerely, Steve

--------------------
Steve Luck
Sign Magic Inc.
2718-b Grovelin
Godfrey, Illinois 62035
(618)466-9120
signmagic@sbcglobal.net

Posts: 870 | From: 2718-b Grovelin Godfrey, Illinois 62035 | Registered: Dec 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Alicia B. Jennings
Resident


Member # 1272

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Alicia B. Jennings   Email Alicia B. Jennings   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I have a ShotBot. Still haven't mastered it. Right now it is mastering me. Sounds like HDU might be the best bet. I want some body/thickness to the letters. They will be about 12 in tall, all caps, reading CROCKETT'S. Under that part will be a very lightweight banner made from maybe bend/curved DiBond, about 10 ft long and 5 inched tall, with some other painted copy on it. It would also be glued onto the wall with the real tough, clear silicone glue. When I get done, they will be more glue on the backs of the letters than the letters. I don't want any product failure.

--------------------
Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
Tacoma, WA
Since 1987
Have Lipstick, will travel.

Posts: 3814 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Alicia B. Jennings
Resident


Member # 1272

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Alicia B. Jennings   Email Alicia B. Jennings   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Maybe I'll do a test somewhere on the building.

--------------------
Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl)
Tacoma, WA
Since 1987
Have Lipstick, will travel.

Posts: 3814 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Brian Stoddard
Visitor
Member # 39

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Brian Stoddard   Author's Homepage   Email Brian Stoddard   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You wont have any trouble, silicone sticks like mad to brick and stone (and hdu) as long as its clean and dry. The only problem you will have is getting the wall clean when you want to take it down. I did a job this summer with hdu and concrete on a hot day - they asked me to move a letter an hour after I put it up and it took longer to move one letter than the whole job.

Sintra works with silicone but not nearly as well.

--------------------
Brian Stoddard
Northwest Wholesale Signs

brian@nwsigns.com
www.nwsigns.com

Posts: 790 | From: Redmond, WA | Registered: Nov 1998  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Michael Clanton
Resident


Member # 2419

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Michael Clanton   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Clanton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I used to work for a sign shop who cut out foam (white beadboard) letters- they were very easy to cut (slap down a thin wooden template, use a router to cut around, paint, and apply- some of those letters are still up after 20 years. I think now they have some sort of coating to apply to the finished letter that makes them very hard... not sure what it's called

--------------------
Michael Clanton
Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio
1933 Blackberry
Conway AR 72034
501-505-6794
clantongraphics@yahoo.com

Posts: 1736 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Dale Feicke
Resident


Member # 767

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Dale Feicke   Email Dale Feicke   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It's called Hard Coat, Mike...ironically enough.

It's available from several sources on the web. Most is water based, but very tough.

--------------------
Dale Feicke Grafix
714 East St.
Mendenhall, MS 39114

"I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me."

Posts: 2963 | From: Mendenhall, MS | Registered: Apr 1999  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Michael Clanton
Resident


Member # 2419

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Michael Clanton   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Clanton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
haha- never would have thought of that...

--------------------
Michael Clanton
Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio
1933 Blackberry
Conway AR 72034
501-505-6794
clantongraphics@yahoo.com

Posts: 1736 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | Letterville. A Community Of Letterheads & Pinheads!

Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classic™ 6.7.2

Search For Sign Supplies
Category:
 

                  

Letterhead Suppliers Around the World