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Bruce Brickman
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Thanks first off!
1) INSTALL-The only thing that feels solid on this curved wall are the wood corner braces/brackets so I'm thinking of some large eye hooks and hanging this but I still need to stabilize the bottom...?
That pipe at the bottom sticks out 6" any ideas, recommendations, insights?

2)BUILD- I want to make this sign 3D (3"-5")so my first thought is signfoam but the weight is a concern because of the wall and the surface seems to be weak so can I make this out of pink insulation foam or something else that is light weight?
My client is excited about the 3D idea as am I, Thoughts anyone?

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Any help?

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I would first try to see what behind that wall if possible. I would imagine its a bunch of 2x4's and likely spaced too far apart so it feels wimpy. If its an option I would try to reinforce that wall from the inside as part of the plan but worst case you could hang it from the columns.

If you hang it I would certainly make an internal frame that the sign would hang from and then weight wont be an issue. Use 15lb HDU or even 10lb since no one is going to be touching it and it will be fairly light. I would assume you would secure the bottom so it wont swing.

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For our projects I almost always weld up a sturdy steel frame. In this case I would make patters from the wall, then weld up the frame and test fit it to the wall, complete with mounting holes already drilled into the wall.

Then remove the frame and laminate the sign to the frame as you build it. Build in a lifting point with a screw out eye bolt because it will be heavy when you are done.Use a small crane to lift the sign into position when you are done (For $50 I hire our local building supply's truck, complete with driver for our installs)

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Bruce Brickman
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Thanks Brian and Dan! I will drill some holes as Sam sugjested and see where the framing is. Dan, I like your idea and hoped you would respond but I think that's a bit over my head for now. I will build up to it in time though!

Any other thoughts on adhesives or bonding materials?

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Bruce,
Sometimes you can see the back of the outside wall from the inside by lifting ceiling tiles.
There should be studs of some kind, metal or wood, behind the face material, even if the face material is Dryvit or something similar.
If the face is a siding, you may be able to see fasteners, nail or screw heads, that will show where studs are.

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BEFORE you drill holes to find the studs ... go to Home Depot or Lowes and buy an electronic stud finder!

Such as :

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202184881/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Much quicker and no holes drilled!

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Just wondering, is the back of the sign gonna be flat or follow the curve of the building?

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Alicia, I was thinking flat but honestly I don't know my options.
I'm just learning as I go.

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