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Dave Sherby
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I've been reading this post for a while now, considering and reconsidering all the comments. I'm leaning toward the MDO warping. I've seen 1/2 inch MDO warp terribly, 3/4 inch not so much. Hope you can resolve the problem Rusty. It's a lovely sign. Good luck.

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Joe Cieslowski
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Rusty: "it has happened to both sides"

Soooooo, the MDO warped both ways?

Rusty: "neither side is caved in"

Both quotes are from his original posting.

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Joe,

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if the mdo warped in one direction, why wouldn't both sides of the foam break?

both sides would be going along for the ride, one side flexing outwards and one side flexing inward.

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Joe Cieslowski
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Flex out......break outwards.

Flex in.......pinched in.

Joe,

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Rusty, I just had my Dad look at this and he says it appears to be entirely salvageable. If you have a 1/16" veining chisel and a 1/8th and 1/4" flat chisel you should be able to do it easily.

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I haven't read all of the responses yet.... I'm sorta p[ressed for time, but one thing Dad did say is that it's always a bad idea to laminate two HDU substrates back to back on the same center piece.

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Rusty,
I would definitely ask the maintenance guy to remove the sign and send it to you, rather than attempting anything on-site.
It's already busted, it wouldn't need much in the way of packing.

I'm with Joe on this.
I believe that the tree held strong during the day while the sign heated up and expanded - more or less uniformly throughout the day.
At night, it cooled down rather quickly, and the tree area tight, as the posts pulled outward.
The weakest points were the HDU near the tree, but far enough away to cause stress fractures. The blasted HDU was ever-so-slightly, but nonetheless effectively "scored", which caused enough of a fault line.

Once it fractured, it was able to re-occur over subsequent nights, and the problem exacerbated to the point of delaminating.
Then the moisture became another culprit.

Anyway, all of the other suggestions for refurbishing the sign are good, so I agree that it can be salvaged and the customer can rest assured that it is rebuilt "better and stronger" than before... not just a band-aid applied.

But PLEASE, get it home to do the work.
This is HOURS of work, on top of hours of travel... just to drive there and realize that you have to bring it home anyway!
Let the overly-qualified groundskeeper earn his keep [Smile]

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