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DianeBalch
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I have a 33" x 33" double sided carved HDU sign that will be hung from a scroll bracket. It can
only have 1 post. Is a 4" x 4" with PVC post
cover strong enough? Or should I use a 6"x 4"
with a 6"x 6" pvc post cover or a 6" x 6" with a pvc post cover? (the 6x6 is too heavy for me to handle by myself).

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Diane,

How heavy is the sign? and how high is it going?

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A 4x4 "might" work. I'd personally go with the 4x6 with the cover. It'll probably look better too.

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Diane,

Like Pat suggest, it doesn't cost that much more to use a 6"X6" post and it will add lots of visual impact. You can add impace by adding a shoulder.

What kind of hangers are you planning on using? I'm sure you are aware, HDU will not stand much stress. We use a steel frame to house our panel. This allows the sign go along for a free ride.

Good luck and let us know how it turn out.

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I agree. You can get away with a 4x4 as far as strength goes, but a 6x6 will look much better. I always go 4x6 minimum. If 6x6 is too heavy for you, go with 4x6 for strength and add a 2x6 to fill in the gap for a 6x6 pvc sleeve. Even with pressure treated wood, 4x4 don't last nearly as long when under ground. Underground install carries the 20 year warranty for 6x6 & up.

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Here are a couple of 4X4's covered with 2" rough cedar. Sometimes I'll flute the covers which makes them look special.

I guess this is some kind of woodworking fun. But I think it complements a sign.

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The sign will have a 3/4 inch MDO core. I think I will screw some metal straps up the sides (screw into the MDO).

DIane

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The. bottom of the sign will be 3ft off the ground.

Diane

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Hiya Diane,
You can also use a 4" x 4" aluminum post - assuming the bracket and hardware are strong enough to carry the weight.

They're typically lighter, longer lasting and stronger than wood.

Havin' fun,

Checkers

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Here is a 4 x 4 PT post built up covered with MDO, pine and HDU.

You can make very attractive posts this way.
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[ September 29, 2010, 11:39 AM: Message edited by: Len Mort ]

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steel post...paint to match the bracket.

Check with a local steel company. Most enjoy working on stuff like this instead for welding septic truck frames. [Wink]
Rapid

[ September 29, 2010, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Ray Rheaume ]

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Thanks Len for posting the attractive post. That's a classic example.

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Joe Crumley
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Here is another example of posts I fabricated over 4 x 4" PT posts along with the sign installed.

It adds much character and embellishes the complet package as well as increasing the total financial health of your bank account.
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I agree with the larger post for visual appeal.

A 4x4 would structurally work, but a larger post would look better.

Like Joe said, you can "skirt" smaller posts to make them look bigger.

Peace,
Bob

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How would you attach a scroll bracket to a steel post?

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Balch Signs
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quote:
Originally posted by DianeBalch:
How would you attach a scroll bracket to a steel post?

Tap and thread.....Tap & Die sets can be found at most hardware stores and are not that expensive or maybe you know someone that has a set they'll let you borrow.

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A family member has a variety of sizes of taps.
Thank you.

Diane

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