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Hi everyone, I was wondering what you would do with a project I got suckered into today. A customer has a cloth/canvas spare tire cover off his Jeep with a logo printed on it. He wants me to cover the logo with a name. Should I try to paint over it with "One Shot" or slap a decal over the top and hope it sticks? How do I get myself into these things?
-------------------- Tucker Lettering by Tucker Chicagoland area Posts: 13 | From: Chicagoland | Registered: Feb 2010
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I don't know how your business is doing but this could be an opportunity to do a really nice job and get more work because of it. Sometimes doing a little extra on small stuff and surprising the customer with a better than expected job can have its benefits especially in these times. I'm not sure about 1 shot sticking, that's another part of the story.
-------------------- Chuck Peterson Designs San Diego, CA Posts: 1052 | From: San Diego, CA USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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If there's a lot of texture and/or flexibility, vinyl is probably not a good option. I would treat it more as an awning-type substrate. Glenn Taylor did a great step-by-step you can find on the Letterville home page. If you run into problems, call me anytime and I'll walk you thru it.........
-------------------- www.signcreations.net Sonny Franks Lilburn, GA 770-923-9933 Posts: 4115 | From: Lilburn, GA USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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I once jigsawed some 1/8" sintra into a circle about 3" smaller in diameter then my clients canvas Jeep spare tire cover. I discussed the plan with him in advance, as well as my lack of knowledge on it's life expectancy. Anyway, I drilled 8 or 10 holes around the perimeter & after applying a digital print, & riveted the thing on with fender washers on the back side... that think looked awesome for years and years!
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I wouldn't use one-shot, or vinyl on cloth/canvas - it's been my experience that one-shot will soak in, or bleed all over - one-shot is not meant for that material. And vinyl, also, not meant for that type of material - it won't stay on long. Get hold of Sonny - that sounds correct/right path - treat it like an awning-type substrate. Doug has an interesting solution too - I would not have thought of that.
-------------------- Kathy Weeks Weeks-End Signs & Graphics Lake Elmo, Minnesota Posts: 249 | From: Lake Elmo, Minnesota | Registered: Mar 2009
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Vinyl will never work. When we paint Sumbrella awning material we use Acrylic Latex House paint. You may have to paint over the logo with that first, then let dry, then paint the new lettering over that, preferably with the same type of paint.
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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Wow...thanks for all the great replies. I will do some investigating and decide which one of your suggestions I'm going to try. I really didn't think the vinyl would work, but I was also concerned about the one shot. Cloth is something I never had to deal with before. Thanks again guys....and gals!
-------------------- Tucker Lettering by Tucker Chicagoland area Posts: 13 | From: Chicagoland | Registered: Feb 2010
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The old copy may still be visible no matter what you coat it out with. It may not be obvious, but it may be discernible from certain angles, in case you want to alert your customer to the possibility.
Brad in Kansas City
-------------------- Brad Ferguson See More Signs 7931 Wornall Rd Kansas City, MO 64111 signbrad@yahoo.com 816-739-7316 Posts: 1230 | From: Kansas City, MO, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Thanks Brad, What makes it worse is the exsisting logo is some kind of reflective ink that looks like it was a heat transfer possibly. I think it would be easier to start with a new blank cover. It's amazing what people think you can paint over.
-------------------- Tucker Lettering by Tucker Chicagoland area Posts: 13 | From: Chicagoland | Registered: Feb 2010
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call cusotmer up, tell them to pick the tire cover up and come back when the have a shiny new plastic one, and dont do these things again. i wouldnt waste another ounce of time on this project. if you havent started dont touch it, if you tick someone off so be it
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I've letterd a few of them like that. I just stick it on the cover (vinyl) then take a heat gun and warm it it all over while you're rubbing it down. this seems to seat the vinyl better in the grainy texture in the cover. Then after it cools a little just pull off the transfer tape and it should stay. mine did. one thing about it...you can always remove it or start over since theres no paint to clean up.I just found it more forgiving. You have to play with it. The main thing to remember is to rub it down while holding it in place and eventually you'll be able to feel it beginning to stick. helps to wet your tape down with application fluid to eliminate pulling the vinyl when you remove the transfer tape. pull slow and easy on a 45% angle flat against the surface. this will elinminate some pull.
-------------------- Norris Sign Works 102 Doogle Lane Shallotte, N.C. 28470 Posts: 117 | From: Shallotte, N.C. USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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I was going to say the same thing- $22 here for a new blank cover, then use waterbased/latex banner paint, or a possibly a flex aid & urethanes. I've done a few with aussie waterbased low-sheen banner paint & they outlasted the cars they were used on.
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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