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I heard they will not be making this anymore. Does anyone know of this?
-------------------- Kevin Betz KB Sign Company 21321 Ulrich Clinton Township, MI 48036 kbsigncompany@att.net Posts: 229 | From: Detroit, MI | Registered: Sep 2003
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Wow and I got a hate letter from 1-Shot for saying it was not like it use to be and the black flattened in about 5 months and the maroon was useless! I didn't get much support from the " Letterheads" either. BUT go get your selves some,Interlux #100 Jet Speed Varnish(if you can find it) This is the product that Glen Weisgerber,others and I used for size years ago. Glen and I told the 1-Shot "Suites" to put a label on the can and market it years ago! They did not even know they made the product even though it had there company name on the label ( Courtaulds Coatings Inc. I also find it illustrative to see no comments from our 1-Shot spokesmen on any of these problems with their products. Again, " I've got enough "OLD STOCK" to get me through" . I hate to see a great product go the way of Greed and Mediocrity.
-------------------- Alan Johnson Alan Johnson Grafix Blairstown, NJ 07825 [URL=http://www.alanjohnsongrafix.com] Posts: 261 | From: Blairstown, NJ | Registered: Dec 2001
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I've never had a problem with One Shot size. Of course, I've never used it They came out with it after I abandoned ship.
Alan, you'll find there is a great allegiance to the stuff and a reluctance on the part of many to say any thing bad about the product in public. I don'think they have any kind of rep that visits this board either. As far as the treatment from the company, I got the same B.S. The rotten treatment had as much or more to do with me quitting using the stuff as did the poor performance.
I've used Luco with good results but my fave is Rolco slow.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"
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From what little I understand through the grapevine there has been a "recent" formulation change. The couple cans I bought last year would now be the old stuff. I haven't tried the new stock (if it's out, I've only heard rumors) but the stuff I have has worked fine for what I've used it for. (I use different sizes for different applications)
So "theoretically" the answer would be, no, they don't make it anymore, now they make something else?
What are the working differences between last year's formula and this year's... if any?
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-------------------- Compulsive, Neurotic, Anti-social and Paranoid ... but basically Happy Posts: 2677 | From: Rochester, NY, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Am guessing,if true,this is another "Lead Issue" Unfortunately there are one shot colours that can't be used with certainty of permanence anymore. Maroon being the one in particular I have had problems with....and a shame it is. Just been a terrific product over the years and we should expect to see much more of this in the future. The move to do away with VOC's and leaded paints. Time to write your congressman and give him some of the facts....little else can be done I'm afraid.
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Friends, I don't associate the lack of lead in 1 Shot lettering enamels as being the culprit to its demise as many colors have not had lead in them for several years. I think some of the other goodies in the paint like resins have been compromised over the years to lesson the production costs of the paint. I think they have caused unforeseen problems. If you are in love with alkyds maybe try another brand such as Ronan or Fine Paints of Europe.
Maybe you are one of lucky ones that have a huge supply of the old stuff. Most aren't lucky like that, but even those old supplies will eventually run out.
I think when vinyl grabbed a foothold in the industry the writing was already on the wall. The folks at 1 Shot surely saw that the use of their products were going to take a hit and they have tried what they can to keep the ship afloat. Fewer and fewer people are wanting to use alkyd paints that are reduced with solvents only to have them fail sooner than expected.
I jumped ship in the 90's and my remaining supply of 1 Shot has been devoted to interior projects, toys and panel jamming with letterheads. I wouldn't rely on the paint for serious projects or you will be disappointed.
My last straw was a sign I lettered for an antique store. It was painted with lettering enamels and the store was painted by the owner using regular house paints. Many colors were coordinated between the sign and the store. The store owner was no painter, but imagine my embarrassment when his paint looked better than mine color for color after 5 years -- me being the pro and all.
I have been using urethanes for my striping and small automotive lettering. I use acrylics with automotive catalyzed clear coats for my longest lasting exterior signs. You can be sure that if the government knew what went into those 2 part paints or if they knew that our landfills were being massed with scrap vinyl, they would pitch a fit and the cycle would start all over again.
I expect that I will have to reinvent myself every half decade with the products I use until I die in order stay in the game.
-------------------- Bill Diaz Diaz Sign Art Pontiac IL www.diazsignart.com Posts: 2107 | From: Pontiac, IL | Registered: Dec 2001
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They came out with it after I abandoned ship.
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