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I do it all the time, no priming necessary. The stain will adhere to the hdu just fine and it could last up to 14 years. If the hdu is rough like when it is sandblasted, use a little Flo-trol for latex as it will break the viscosity and make it flow into the pores easier. Rough hdu needs to be worked into the pores with a brush. I then put on the second coat straight from the can. If the hdu is fairly smooth no Flo-tol is necessary. If you are going to spray it, back brush it right away, and if you have to thin it for spraying, I use 3 coats.
Edit: I just read what stain you are going to use. I like True Value Woodsman and Mautz, but that Cabot should work great since it is a high solids stain. You won't have any problem and should out last any paint.
[ August 16, 2010, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: Dave Sherby ]
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Joe, Been using the exact brand for the last two years. I had to match an existing structure for the state parks and I have had 100% results doing similar steps to Daves. Also have had great results with enamel colors being added on top with great bonding.
On the larger panels I spray it on using the Critter Gun
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-------------------- Sam Staffan Mackinaw Art & Sign 721 S. Nokomis St. Mackinaw City, MI dstaffan@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1694 | From: Mackinaw City, MI | Registered: Mar 2004
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My gut told me it would work. I appreciate your confirmation. I brushed and rolled on a coat yesterday. I applied a second coating this morning. I have it in a warm room with a dehumidifier blowing on it. I'm going to wait 12 hrs and apply the third coating. I'll mask and carve it on Thursday.
I've used it on wood for many years and it holds up very, very well. I'm using Barn Red and in 6 years there is no apparent fading. I've also had success painting it with enamels as well as gilding. A quick rub with a fine scuff pad will bring up the luster nicely but you gotta love the flat finish or your outa luck.
Thanks again for the insight!!!!
Joe,
Makin Chip$ and Havin Fun!
-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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I've been using Sherwin Williams Woodscapes stain on Redwood and HDU since about 1995. Only thing is, it will chalk/fade faster than latex paint will. I just spray it directly onto the HDU. Two coats. I use it as a primer too.
[ August 17, 2010, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: Wayne Webb ]
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7404 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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I'm curious...we,also use the stains. However, my husband likes oil and I prefer water based. I hate the oil smell, clean up, longer drying time, etc. Do you have a preference and why?
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30+ years ago, I used the Olympic brand on the reccomendation of a builder.....it was oil and it worked very well.
When I went back to the stains I went with acrylic latex.....I was told that they were vastly improved and like you, I like the ease of use. I only use 6 or 8 different colors on my house markers so I don't even wash the rollers.....just wrap em in a plastic bag.
Werks for me.....
Joe,
Makin Chip$ and Havin Fun!
-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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Short Version. If I understand it right. Stain actually penetrates the Pores/Fiber of the wood where paint sits on top. So on HDU I don't think there would a difference as the texture of HDU is much larger pores so the paint soaks in whether it's a stain or Paint
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Oil stain on HDU will end up with a slight gloss. This will be enhanced with a second coat. Oil stains are made to penetrate wood, so on HDU, the oil stain cannot penetrate into anything and will gloss up just like multiple coats on wood. Once the wood is sealed with the stain, extra coats just lies on top and ends up glossy.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5397 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I'm not sure I'm with the gloss wood grain on HDU. Sounds kind of plastic looking to me. I often get the question when using HDU, are your signs made from plastic. With the faux oil stain technique I'd probably just say YES and smile.
I sure like wood.
-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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You're right Joe. I meant that in a bad way. Glossy wood grain is ka-ka. I discovered this when I first started using hdu and tested various stains and paints. The oil stain was glossy on the first coat, took forever to dry, and just didn't look right.
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