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That seems to be making it's way around the web. It is a nice feature but what really amazes me the help everyone is giving Adobe promoting this. Other editors have this feature already so that in itself is not a big deal.
Right now I have CS3 and along with my Corel Draw 12 can't really be persuaded in these tough times to upgrade for minor improvements.
Man I wish we could do this with our customers, persuade them it is time to upgrade or redo your sign so you aren't left behind.
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Your'e right David. While this is hugely impressive, I'd probably use that feature once a week at best. Three years ago, when business was flying, I wouldn't think twice but at the present time with every cent counting, I can't justify the upgrade either
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That's incredible! I think it may be worth the upgrade in my case. It looks like a huge time saver. I wonder how it works for taking trees and lamposts away from the front of brick buildings and removing old signs from building facias?
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I guess it all comes down to what your time is worth. I can see that one tool alone taking the hours I would have saved and putting it in my wallet.
Just because you have a tool that allows you to do in minutes what would have taken hours doesn't mean you can't still charge it.
quote:Originally posted by Glenn Taylor: I guess it all comes down to what your time is worth. I can see that one tool alone taking the hours I would have saved and putting it in my wallet.
Just because you have a tool that allows you to do in minutes what would have taken hours doesn't mean you can't still charge it.
Sounds good and justifiable Glenn but in reality more than likely said when you can't say no to more toys and more debt.
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I have a button I press "bad sign" and presto I get a good sign. Also I'm upgrading to get the "concept" button and maybe the "layout" button too. If I order now they say they will throw in a free "pay now" button. Kidding aside that is amazing and yes it would save lots of time if your doing that kind of work. Actually in conceptualizing for a mural and a portrait lately I have been doing a lot of this photo editing and that feature would really make a difference in time gained.
quote:Originally posted by David Wright: Sounds good and justifiable Glenn but in reality more than likely said when you can't say no to more toys and more debt.
Perhaps. I was told something similar when we bought our first Edge. Yeah, it cost me $35k for the setup. I only grossed $98k in new business with it in the first year.
But seriously, it depends on the work you do. I just spent $300 two weeks ago to upgrade a Photoshop plug-in and it has already paid for itself twice over. It stands to generate at least $7500 in additional annual revenue while eliminating 95% of my previous labor.
You've just got to take a realistic look at the work you're doing and base your decision on that.
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Glen, Which Photoshop plug-in did you upgrade ?
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quote:Originally posted by Jim Moser: Glen, Which Photoshop plug-in did you upgrade ?
Jim, I've been using a PS plug-in called Sitegrinder to build most of my websites. They announced a major upgrade a few weeks ago and started offering a special "pre-release" special. The upgrade is due to be released at the end of this month. I got the entire suite which includes a CMS and a Commerce extension for $300. Once its released, the price goes up to $800.
I was invited to be a part of their beta test program when I bought the upgrade. There were only a few weeks left in the beta but they felt a few fresh eyes would help. The part in particular I was referring to in my earlier post was the CMS plug-in.
I'm not a code jockey and know squat about writing PHP. But I've had several clients wanting to be able to edit portions of their websites without having to pay someone to do it for them. I've been struggling to learn how to write code so I could do it.
Since getting the plug-in, I've been charging $150 extra to include a CMS (content management system) in the websites I build for my clients. I've done 4 so far and have 2 more clients waiting. All of them want to have CMS included.
What used to take me 15-30 minutes to set up a CMS literally take seconds. The idea of adding an extra $150 in billing for a few seconds worth of work is a no-brainer for me.
The commerce plugin is going to be another cash cow. I've already got 3 clients who want to add eCommerce to their sites.
As I've always said, it doesn't matter what it cost. Its how much you make with it.
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Thanks Glenn, I have heard of Sitegrinder, but don't know much about it. I have been using Photoshop to do print graphics... catalogs and such. It would be nice to be able to create websites too. Something else to add to my to do list !
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I have two projects in the works that might justify buying it. I have SG2, but I've actually been coding by hand lately. It sounds like SG3 has some great new features that would make small sites fast and easy to create. These are pretty simple projects if they decide to go ahead.
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I just found them. I'm supposed to be going out in about 45 minutes, so I may have to wait to view them. That has been one of the things I had hoped SG2 would do better. It seemed like when I was making changes, it was like going back to the drawing board.
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Russ, I just got word that they are going to be purging all beta activations this Sunday. Looks like they are definitely going to be making the release this Monday at 12am (midnight).
If you want to get the pre-release price, I'd do it by no later than tomorrow. The "suite" upgrade goes from $299 to $799 first thing Monday.
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Nice job Glenn... the web design is coming along great.
Does SiteGrinder allow you to do eCommerce? And how creative can you get with it? Will it let you add custom flash stuff that integrates well with the creative mood you want to achieve.... or is it pretty much cut and paste template elements which limit the creative input?
Thanks!
Oh.... and while I did like the overall effect of that new Photoshop function... I did notice that it wasn't perfect.... after they used the function on the shadow projecting under the bench (fixed the "lens flare")... I noticed that the replacement shadow it slugged in was noticeably lighter than the shadow before/after it.
Nothing's perfect I guess... but still get's you way closer to where you need to be in a jiffy. Cool.... again- is that going to be released in CS5?
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You can get pretty creative with it. Flash elements and jQery are no problem. You'd be amazed at what some of the other beta testers have come up with during testing.
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I would imagine that it is coming in CS5 Todd as in the video the guy says how you had to do it in CS4 and it looks like it is functioning fully so I would think it will be ready for CS5.
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I put in the order. Hope I can get my money back soon on the few web projects I have in the works. I am in serious need of cash flow. But, it looks like I may have picked up another gig, so a total of three web sites I will be doing in the next several weeks.
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I don't think you'll regret it. The learning curve is steeper. The've changed some of the hints and eliminated a few others. Setting up the footer and pagesize is different but much easier than before.
I just got an e-mail from a client who I've been talking to about updating his website. He wants to add eCommerce. That one job alone will pay for the Commerce plugin 4 times over. Woohoo!
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I just need time to get through those videos so I can see what is possible with all the new features.
Small businesses seem willing to spend a little bit of money on a web site, when they may not want to spend a time on anything else. If I could make the process go quickly enough, I could capture some of that little niche and make money.
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That's what I'm running into. A lot of them are tight-fisted when it comes to their signage but not so much when it comes to their websites. Its a mistake on their part, but I'll take my money where I can.
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I think it's because they know they can't do it. And, it isn't as easy for someone to come along and do it for nothing. They just expect it to cost them, so they are prepared to talk about it.
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