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this is local, and seems to me they have a sence of humor with the bathroom signage......... anyone who been here will tell you its real confusin!! give em a call...........and ask them. https://www.mcguiresirishpub.com/
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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A guess would be Paddies and Colleens, but I have been told that calling someone a Paddy is offensive to a true Irishman. Love....Jill PS Perhaps just the standard Ladies and Gents?
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I don't know if this helps, but the Gaelic for "Men" is "Fir" and for "Women" is "Mna"
-------------------- Jeff Margeson High School Art Teacher 49 Kincaid St. Bolivar, NY 14715 jmargeson@brcs.wnyric.org Posts: 29 | From: Bolivar, NY | Registered: May 2008
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Jay...Jill is right about Paddies. I don't know alot about Irish women, but the men were often cops...hence the term "Paddy Wagon".
There was some red hair involved amongst the women and children, which is still evident today, which gave everybody a reputation for being onery and wild.
I guess.
I can testify that all my Irish kinfolk were all volatile. Something to do with the heritage.
That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.
-------------------- Jeff Ogden 8727 NE 68 Terr. Gainesville FL, 32609 Posts: 2138 | From: 8827 NE 68 Terr Gainesville Fl 32609 | Registered: Aug 2002
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I think of this on the same level as "cute" alphabets. You shouldn't have to try to figure it out what it says! If one has to stand there and try to figure which is the right room (especially if you have to go NOW) I don't think people will find it so cute! Make it easy. Men & Women but with a cute shape silhouette, border or image. IMHO
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-------------------- Jane Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764 815-844-7024 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 4102 | From: Pontiac, IL USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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OP . . . I've been there!! Mike Sheehan took us there . . . the place with all the $1 bills stuck to the walls and ceilings . . . their Shepherd's Pie kicks butt!!
I remember the bathrooms - and they fool you is all I can recall . . . but I don't remember why.
I didn't see them in the virtual tour . . . refresh my memory or tell me which of those virtual tours has the bathrooms in it . . . or what they say . . .
Thanks for the trip down memory lane!! Jody and I flew in to Pensacola for our honeymoon on the panhandle back in 1999 - and then she let me stay a day with Mike learning the Gerber router while she shopped . . . is that a great wife or what?
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"The object of the superior man is truth." -Confucius Posts: 1285 | From: Machesney Park, IL, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ron here, I work with Russell and we've normally use Ladies and Gents for the washroom signs.
Others, it's a combination of Mna (Ladies) & Fir (Gents) like Jeff says.
It does get confusing when trying to be cleaver. One of our clients uses Foxes and Vixens on their doors and I think it's a double-take on which door to use if it wasn't for the smaller words of Ladies or Gents underneath.
Keeping it simple is good when you're in a bar.
-------------------- Russell kelly Kelly sign co 895 fenmar dr 416 746-2099 Posts: 6 | From: Weston, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Jan 2001
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Ron . . . OK then . . . since you guys are far more specialized at Irish pubs and pub signs in general, I'm going to scrapthe 'clever' and use the Ladies/Gents . . .
Jeez, Pete . . . our beer has alcohol in it . . . it's just lower because it doesn't double as anti-freeze for the cars like Molson and Labatts . . .
Actually . . . it's all a myth . . . and I can prove it . . . OK, not me - but this website explains the difference - which is NONE . . .
So, Pete . . . you owe me a beer the next time I see you . . . for spreading false and harmful lies about American beers having no 'cajones' . . . in fact, I'll take a free beer from EACH of my Canadian friends for propagating that falsehood lo these many years . . .
When can I collect?
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one from each of your canadian friends? must not be very thirsty,eh? if your wearing those pink shorts i'll buy you two if you promise to pretend you don't know me
-------------------- Pete Payne Willowlake Design/Canadian Signcrafters Bayfield, ON
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Jay. Whereas fir and mna are indeed the Gaelic words for men and women, unless you were Irish you would not know this, so may be a little confusing. Lads and lassies might work
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Not any help, but the best one I have seen, and it wasn't questionable at all, was a dog themed bar/restaurant and the doors said Pointers and Setters.
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Kevin . . . ah, one of the true Irishmen!! Thanks, Kev . . . I thought about lads and lassies - but it seemed too Scottish . . . is that not true? Used freely in Ireland as well?
Let me know . . .
Pete . . . yeah, Doc's was cool. It's so tucked into the woods it isn't funny . . . I asked him if he was part of the Federal Witness Protection program . . . he's out there . . . but still Doc. We've gotten to be good friends through the years . . .
Thanks re: Pontiac . . . it was a gas. So great to work with my bestest friends - and even family (my son) while there. To have Ray Guzman and his son working with me was cathartic for them - and for me also . . . Ray hadn't been to a meet in over 10 years . . . And to be honest, considering the lack of 'old time' Letterhead meets anymore, I don't get to see my Canadian friends as often as I like now . . . so yeah, I'll have to mooch the beers off of you . . . most Canuckians probably forgot me . . . or intended to . . . Well, except for Sawatzk-eh . . .
Maybe I'll do another Walldog meet in Belvidere - or a meet here at my place . . . with 6,300 sq. ft., we'd have puh-lenty of room . . . but somehow the Walldog things seems like it has some real potential . . . and the city would surely roll out the red carpet again for us . . .
If I did, you're obligated to come you know . . .
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Lads and lassies is indeed Scottish and never used in Ireland so that one's out. Fir and Mna would be more in keeping with a true Irish pub......but also use an image denoting male and female, after all a picture paints a thousand words!!! Having been in USA many times and drank your beer I really doubt anyone could get so soused as to not be able to interpret the signs. Anyway, make them work for their pee!
ps....now residing on a Greek island.
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Here's one way to do the combo deal so you have some gaelic and still know which door to pick.
-------------------- Russell kelly Kelly sign co 895 fenmar dr 416 746-2099 Posts: 6 | From: Weston, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Jan 2001
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Brian O'Prey . . . how the hell are you? On a Greek island, huh? Better than Mazeppa, MN by a long shot . . .!! Hope all is well . . .
Russell . . . well done . . . but in Belvidere, I'm not sure that would work. It does fit, though . . . nice way to combine the two - and sweet . . . as always with you.
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Just a further thought. The gaelic words for boy and girl is "Buachaill" and "Cailin". These might look well coupled with an English wording also. Might I suggest a font called Bunchlo. I regularly use this as it is very similar to an old Gaelic typeface.
-------------------- Kevin Gaffney Artistik Signs Kinnegad County Westmeath Ireland 044-75187 kevingaffney@eircom.net Posts: 628 | From: Ireland | Registered: Oct 2003
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Jay, bro being from the Latino...I don't think I could be much of help, but I think Brian O'Prey hit it on the target. On the cleverness part of the sign, I think you have a great imagination, but like many we feed on info to kick it in. well hummmmm what would I do... Maybe a sexy potato with eye lashes and lipstick, high heels. and for the dude maybe a cool potato with shades and a moustache, kind of leaning to the side by a street corner sign. I don't know bro I'm just throwing stuff out. What ever you come up with I know you'll make it right.
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We do signs for a fire and safety equipment firm - the signs on their washroom doors are: 'Fire Hoses' and 'Sprinklers' - sorry this has nothing to do with the Irish - just thought I'd share!
-------------------- Lori Wilcox Tabby Ink Hinton, Alberta Canada Ph 780-865-4305 Posts: 306 | From: Hinton, Alberta, Canada | Registered: Aug 2007
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Potatoes?????? Come on.....think quality! Hope you are well FranCisco. Hi Jay, all is well in the sunny Aegean sea. Still painting signs except now in Greek, a great alphabet to play with. Months without rain allows for lots of outside work, sure beats the grey of Ireland. And in the Mediterranean light....colours sing! The less said about Mazeppa the better.....if you know what I mean. Ha! Hope the Irish pub work goes well for you.
-------------------- Brian O'Prey Brian O'Prey, Artist and Designer 5 Old Movilla Road, Newtownards County Down Northern Ireland BT23 8HH Tel. 028 9181 3517 email-brianlionzion@hotmail.com Posts: 91 | From: Newtownards, County Down, Ireland | Registered: Aug 2003
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Jay, don't see where OP replied back to ya, but here's the McGuires bathroom doors... the one with 'Mens' big is on the 'Womens' bathroom door and vice versa.
The state actually tried to make them take the signs down because it was too confusing, I guess a 15 year old girl walked into the men's room and was very emotionally distraught about it, causing a lawsuit, etc.... but McGuires worked it out with the state to keep them.. they have swinging doors right inside the main doors now, with big 'Men' and 'Women' signs prominently displayed... so you know that you've messed up without walking all the way in.
After a few drinks, you really have to concentrate when heading to their bathrooms though!!
The McGuires in Destin had similar signs and I think they've had to take theirs down.... here's the ones from Destin...
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Oh, Pete, Pete , Pete . . . I'd bash you for bad puns . . . but those were spot on . . . well done!! If I do another meet, you can bet I'll ask for Red to stop by . . . and collect on my not-so-watered-down-after-all American beer bet.
Jon J. . . . THAT'S what I was looking for . . . now I remember, THANKS . . . but if Florida had problems with them, so might we.
I think I'm going to stick with Ladies and Gents . . . as tempting as it is to get silly.
To all . . . thank you. What a wonderful collaboration this website can be at times!!
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