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Rob Lenz
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Hi Heads,

Been a while since I have posted anything. But I have a new problem, I purchased some OFT LHF fonts from the Letterheads, not this one, and they won't work on my computer. They will install in the font folder in Windows but when I go to any program and try to use them they are not there. I have called and e-mailed Chuck and Bob at the web site, they are at a loss as what to do. Has anyone else experienced any problem like this? If so could you get them to work? What did you do? We found a post on the net about editing the registry but I don't know if it will work and am a little bit leary of messing around in the registry! Any help will greatly be appreciated.

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Rob Lenz
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Wayne Webb
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Most likely your program does not support OTF's. I had the same problem as they won't work with SignWizard 6.0

I have to access them in CorelDraw, then convert to curves and export into SW if I want to use it.

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Wayne Webb
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Glenn Taylor
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Which Windows OS and programs are you using?

I'm wondering if converting the fonts from OTF to TTF with a program like Font Forge would solve the problem.

[ September 14, 2009, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: Glenn Taylor ]

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Jason Davie
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Glenn I don't think with their lic. that it legal to do.. [Frown]

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Jason Davie
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Glenn Taylor
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To be perfectly honest, as long as the fonts aren't shared I really don't care if it is legal or not.

Lets be frank. LHF and its artists deserve to be protected against piracy.

And odds are pretty good that LHF isn't going to give Rob a refund. Neither would any other company simply due to the nature of the product.

But if I spend my hard earned money on something that doesn't function as expected and can make it work by simply modifying the file format, I'm darn well going to do it.

What I'm not going to do is share the LHF files I paid for.

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Here is something to think about. I own several LHF fonts. I use Gerber's "True Type Converter" to convert the OTF's to Gerber's native font format. Am I in violation of the LHF license? Could Gerber be held liable for supplying a program to convert the fonts? Would Linotype, Bitstream or any other font house really fork over the money necessary to lawyers to go after Gerber and Omega users?

I've used Gerber's "True Type Font Converter" to convert all of my LHF fonts to Gerber's font format to make it easier for me to use the fonts. Is LHF going to go after Gerber or me? As long as I'm not "sharing" the fonts, probably not.

[ September 14, 2009, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: Glenn Taylor ]

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I completely agree glenn. I think they should still be available in ttf form for those whose software cant use otf...

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The reasoning behind them selling onlly OTF type fonts, is the piracy issue. I actually dont know what thier license says about converting them , but doing so makes them easier to give away or resell, aka piracy. Someone like Glenn would not do this, I am sure, but there are so many people out there that will and do. Ask me how I know, its absolutely awful. I have to constantly search the net for my stuff and send emails to people about sharing or putting my stuff up on download sites. Its never ending.
As for the fonts, I use alot of LHF fonts,and I do like Wayne does. I do all my layouts in illustrator, and then save as eps for use in Vinylmaster pro. Some programs arent setup to use OTF fonts.

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Glenn Taylor
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John's adventure with piracy reminded me of something I ran into years ago with a Signcraft advertiser who was selling fonts back when Corel Draw was still using their proprietary font format (wmf I think or something like that).

I needed a "cut" quality font which at the time Corel's proprietary fonts were not. I ordered several through the advertiser only to find out that they had simply converted Corel's fonts in to TTF and changed the name. I realized this when I noticed that the fonts between the two companies were identical point for point, error for error.

The fonts were useless for cutting. I called the advertiser to complain. They sent me 5 additional fonts for free and told me never to call them again. If I had known what I know today, I should have called SignCraft to let them know.

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Russ McMullin
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I agree with you Glenn. I don't share my purchased fonts with anyone, but if I needed to convert a font to get a particular job done, I would do it.

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I remain silent, though as Russ can attest, I surely wish to say much on this issue of protecting one's fonts from piracy to the point of obsession--but i won't do that. *snicker!*

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Michael Gene Adkins
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Randy, you are such a bad boy! Go to your room!

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SORRY - I FEEL SHAME

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[Smile]

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Russ McMullin
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what version of gerber's true type font converter will convert open type fonts?
I go through the small fonts option in omega and remove smart edit to cut. (kind of a pain)

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Mark, I'm using Omega 2.6 and 3.0. They both convert just fine. I don't have 1.56 installed but I suspect it will work just as well.

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I used to get calls a lot with people having trouble converting. Usually it is a glitch on their end. Plus there is little the designer using FontLab or fontographer can do to make the fonts come out much different when they are generated.

I guess my real gripe is that Omega won't just read ttfs and otfs normally and be done with it. This whole "closed system" thing seemed like a bad idea years back, and a bad idea years forward.

agree? disagree?

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