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I picked up a gallon of the all new, milky white, revolutionary, mineral spirits, by mistake at the Home Depot. It looks like milk and the label says it is non flammable. I tried it for thinning and did not like it, but as far as a brush cleaner it works. The effect of thinning was like it did not thin much lind of like trying to thin down skim milk with whole milk...
Does anyone know anything about this new product and if it has any value beyond brush cleaner?
-------------------- Preston McCall 112 Rim Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 text: 5056607370 Posts: 1561 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998
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Somebody grabbed a gallon for me while they were out running errands. I betcha it's nothing more than water and emulsifier. Seriously. There are "water bourn" alkyd paints that clean up with water, and I think this is the very same thing. I would not use it for thinning paint. For all I know, this emulsifier is a degreaser of sorts. Imagine what that'll do to your oil based paint!
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I can't find any reason why persons would thin paint to begin with outside of spraying it. As it tis, persons complain that the paint is too thin from the can and yet thin it more when using a brush.
Oh well, some never learn
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I'm with Joey & George. When I do thin for spraying, I use the proper reducer. Mineral Spirits is for cleaning brushes, and then I feel it only does a mediocre job.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5407 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I do thin fluorescent day glo a bit. I have to thin poster in order to paint fast outlines and fills. When working on paper, I thin both as it does set up so much faster and is more even. Yes, I even add some to my lettering enamel at times as it makes things snap a bit more. OK. I should use reducer or you say, None At All? Try opening a can of lettering that has been on the shelf for six months and needing an ounce to high light some effect without thinning. What is this "do not thin" stuff about?
When I am doing something that will be permanent, I use fresh lettering and have found using some hardener helps (thanks to Old Paint). Still, I do thin it a bit. I have been painting signs most of my life, so where does this "do not thin" come from?
-------------------- Preston McCall 112 Rim Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 text: 5056607370 Posts: 1561 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998
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I don't even like to clean a brush with it. I respect my quills enough to be afraid of that stuff. It might be good for mosquito abatement. I just bought a few gallons of the old fashioned mineral spirits.
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I accdentially bought some of the white stuff they caled paint thinner. It's crap! I was in a jam and needed something to reduce my 1-Shot. When I finally got the "Proper 1-Shot" reducer, I used the rest of that goat milk to clean out my brushes.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3874 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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Goat milk. That is a great name for it. I use it as a first wash for my brushes and it does get rid of much of the color, but min spts does the rest, five more times, in variang degrees of clenliness. Then a soak in brush oil. At this rate, I will have enough of this goat milk to last a couple decades. Wonder how long they will make the stuff and why did they ever think we would fall for it? Wonder if it freezes. Guess I will find out soon enough as it is out there in the unheated garage. Brrr...Hate that thought!
-------------------- Preston McCall 112 Rim Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 text: 5056607370 Posts: 1561 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998
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Every paint has a reducer that the manufacturer has formulated to work correctly with their paint.
Mix and match is just asking for failure?
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I like the term goat milk, although I don't wish to demean goats.
I found another use for it yesterday. I was lettering this truck and did the vehicle weight and highway license numbers on this battery box cover on the step and was reaching across it lettering the doors when I stepped back finding that I leaned into the numbers and they were now painted on my shirt backwards. The white stuff cleaned the fabric before placing it in the washer. No mineral spirits smell in the machine.
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Have'nt seen the thinner you described Preston . . . but I tell ya, it's pro'ly Si's fault . . . he's from that place . . . California the home of envir'mental'ist wacko's who are trying to recreate Eden; zero chemicals, zero calories, zero animal/tree deaths . . . Meanwhile, fires start by lightning and mother-nature culls out the animals by such means . . . and she culls out everything else with earthquakes . . .
les'see . . . gee, after an earthquake, everything leaks chemicals and trouble and needs fixin' and re-PAINTED ~ hello!
An' HEY . . . ain't the Cal-I-forn'ers the one's who took the lead AND the oils out of our paint?? And the grills out of their yards? And the bulbs out of our lights . . . And the asbestos out of our fire retardant stuff?
NOW they're takin' the spirits out of our minerals . . .?
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Does this mean I'm gonna have to start buying a life time supply of reducers? I'm still kicking myself for not buying a lifetime supply of lead filled 1-Shot and BonAmi cake soap bars.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3874 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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They still make Bon-Ami, Alicia, right here in Kansas City at Faultless Starch. It is Feldspar powder and "Hasn't scratched yet!" as the chickadee on the can says.
Lead lettering Enamel? Got to go to China! They got it, I hear. They also have some synthetic shellac based, lead pigmented paint that is supposed to be the hot stuff over there. Anyone here know any Chinese sign painters? Alcohol based and sets up very fast.
-------------------- Preston McCall 112 Rim Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501 text: 5056607370 Posts: 1561 | From: Santa Fe, New Mexico | Registered: Nov 1998
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Note to self,,,Visit Chinese Restaurant, find person who speaks chinese, have him/her call China for me to place a large order of lead base lettering enamel. Mark up price and sell to signpainters.
-------------------- Signs by Alicia Jennings (Mudflap Girl) Tacoma, WA Since 1987 Have Lipstick, will travel. Posts: 3874 | From: Tacoma, WA. U.S.A. | Registered: Dec 1999
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"Lead based...enamel" You might as well have written "ENVIRO TERRORIST" in all caps!!! Ahhh!!!
The government spy bots are coming to a website near you...
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