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I was charged 69.00 per book (not pack, but book) from a company last week. This was for patent leaf. I later called another company who could sell some books to me for almost half that because they had some on the shelf. (and I think they may have been hungry for business? ... or was the other company gauging me?)
So .... what is the real cost of that stuff these days?
Inquiring minds don't want to be ripped off. haha
~nettie
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I don't know what the other brand was, but Swift is usually a cheaper brand and doesn't cover as well as others. The brand really can make a difference both in price and the quality (thickness).
-------------------- Rick Heller Ohio Technical College 1374 E. 51st Street Cleveland, OH 44103 IOAFS Posts: 210 | From: Cleveland, OH | Registered: Nov 2001
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Gold leaf has also gone up tremendously (more than doubled) the last year. I got some real surprises when I reordered.
I was told by the supplier that the driving force in the price increase wasn't so much the cost of the Gold (there's not a great amount of it in the leaf once it's pounded so thin) but what's happened to the currency.
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5084 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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If you have swift, the dealer was unloading it.....it's been on the shelf for quite a while. To the best of my knowlege Swift is outa business. They were right here in hartford CT and I can't find hide nor hair of em.
I've been paying about $500 a pac (+/-). If you are buying by the book it's gonna run ya a bit more.......$35-45. At $69, you were taken for a ride. IMHO
Joe,
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-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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David, what price were you surprised at? I want to be knowing what the current sticker shock is so that I can be in the loop when I'm pricing out jobs. haha
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My last pac was from Seep.....$498 which included S+H and Insurance. It's Chinese (23k) and a little smaller leaf.....I think 3" x 3". BTW, I have been getting brillant gilds with it ( I'm probably just getting better at it)
I believe the other brands were between $40 to $60) higher.
The difference is in what is in the other k. I'm not making museum pieces or reverse glass so I never, and I mean never, gave a hoot. Remember, IJAFS. No brand has ever failed me. The only issues I've had is with the gold sticking to the paper (patent) and that problem has not been brand specific or too much rouge.
OH.....another important thing (price wise). Surface gold has small holes in it which is not a problem when surface gilding.....heck, ya put holes in it anyway when you put it down. Now, for glass work, the leaf must be perfect. That leaf is called deep glass. That is much more expensive.....maybe that is what you paid the $69 for.....dunno?
Of course now that I've typed all this, Kent Smith will be along to straighten us all out!!!
Joe,
Makin Chip$ and Havin Fun!
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-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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I just ordered 15 books of 23K patent from Urban at W&B Gold Leaf for about $35 a book. He's a great guy, sells excellent quality, and is a merchant here in Letterville........
-------------------- www.signcreations.net Sonny Franks Lilburn, GA 770-923-9933 Posts: 4115 | From: Lilburn, GA USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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...Swift and any gold w. holes in it. This is suitable enough for surface work. But, for glass, only the best quality yields the highest burnish.
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I've been using Crocodile Brand from Sepp and have really been pleased with it. It is patent 23Kt. DBL. standard 3-3/8" square.
The last time I bought some it was around $500 a pack, but that is almost gone now. When I checked the price about three months ago it was right at $600 a pack...so I'll probably be buying it by the book as I need it.
-------------------- Chapman Sign Studio Temple, Texas chapmanstudio@sbcglobal.net Posts: 6306 | From: Temple, Texas, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I use Crocodile as well. Swift was great gold, surface, glass and striping rolls. When Matthew Swift died at 102 years old in 2005, the son did not want to continue the operation, they closed the doors. Swift also had a great slow size.
-------------------- Len Mort Signmaker1.com 11 Juniper Drive Millbury, MA 508-865-2382 "A Good Business Sign, is A Sign of Good Business"(1957) Posts: 811 | From: Millbury, Ma | Registered: Dec 2006
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I bought a pack of Swift xx deep patent for $400 and 10 books of Giusto Mannetti xx glass loose leaf for $20/book. Turned out the guy lived a few miles from the shop and brought it by when he came into town.
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7404 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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My last purchase was with Sepp Leaf in Jan. It was for 4 packs of SL23 @ $825.00 per pack.
Newest order last month 1 pack SL23 $952.50
SL23.5 is running -$1112.00 a pack
Crocodile is running $640.00 a pack
W&B is $560.85
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-------------------- Sam Staffan Mackinaw Art & Sign 721 S. Nokomis St. Mackinaw City, MI dstaffan@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1694 | From: Mackinaw City, MI | Registered: Mar 2004
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Another endorsement for W&B. Reasonable prices and great to work with. Good quality, too.
-------------------- Brian Oliver Paxton Signs Fort Collins, CO paxton@peakpeak.com www.paxtonsignsofcolorado.com Posts: 237 | From: ft. collins, colorado,usa | Registered: Mar 2001
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Yikkes........do prices vary!! In Canada I go usually to Art Essentials which has an office in Toronto. If I remember correctly last order for a pack of glass gold(it's thicker than surface) and one of patent came in at $1200-$1300. There is a savings at over a pack an order. I have seen it for more than $80 a book at art shops etc. Might be worth becoming a retailer at the same time.
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