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Well, once again..... it's a tool that has it's place in a certain line of work. I have vinyl cutters and this thing will do lots of things a vinyl cutter won't. It is mainly designed for ladies who are into cardmaking, like my wife. And while you may poo-poo cardmaking, it has a lot of the same principles of layout as a sign.... and I've been impressed with the layouts and coloring examples she's done....
For example, this is a folding card that my wife cut out by hand. The Cricut will cut this out of thick card stock automatically. And since everything must be cut on the little 12"x24" cutting mat, it's hardly a threat for signmakers... you can cut small things out of vinyl to decorate objects or for etch masks, but for any size of sign, it would be impossible.
So.... while it has it's proper place and is an invaluable tool to a certain industry, signmakers that have no idea of it's intended use and capabilities will make fun of it...
I really don't think the thousands of new let's-make-signs entrepreneurs with a $300 vinyl cutter from Ebay will be put out of business by this machine.
And Joe, as far as the Carvewright, again, it's a tool with a place. If you are carving large signs, of course it will not be adequate (they don't advertise to those people).... but if you are an entry-level carver making small appliques or other items such as this clock my buddy designed and made the other day on his Carvewright..... it's perfect.
It would be stupid for him to have a $40,000 room-full of router to make these items....
-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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I'm glad you were paying attention at the workshop Ray.
-grampa dan
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Yeah Stephen .... that very clever "job offer" is a very low cost advert creating worldwide awareness in the beauty of the Barrier Reef and heaps more Tourist dollars.
I have been fortunate to have sampled many times a slice of that "Paradise" ... either sailing my own charter yacht ,scuba diving, or just snorkeling with wife Sue in a lagoon 1/2 days drive from here.
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Jon, It's not really about the size of the job. Garbage in........ I don't know who designed the program for that eagle but he certainly doesn't even know what a birds wing looks like .....I've done this bird down to a 5"x7"
Garbage in..........
Here's another example.....this image is 4 1/2" wide and 1/2" deep.....to the left, hand work.....you know how the one on the right was made.....and it was made on a $20,000+ machine with a very expensive program to run it. What was the comment about size?
Entry level carver??????? You don't need a $2,000 or $200,0000 piece of machinery......entry level for a real carver is under $300. I suppose the sticker machine ownership makes you an entry level signwriter/painter? Right?
Honestly, I don't have any problems with any machine. Actually, I'm a very big fan. I spent 6 years in college studying mfg. technology and the first thing we were taught was that technolory has its limits. Both of these machines are VERY limited just like the $20,000 machine with its technology. (Well, not quite as bad)
Lucky for me that my customers know the difference (actually, it's quite obvious......isn't it?).
Enjoy your carvewright Jon, just don't call yourself any knid of carver. (I know you own one)
That's all I'm gonna say on the subject.
Joe,
Makin Chips and Havin Fun!
-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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Yes, Joe, your work is awesome and you are one of the best 'CARVERS' I've seen. I've always thought that and don't question it. However, I could carve every day with hand tools for the next 5 years and never get anything that you would rank above a coroplast sign with vinyl letters. You are talented.
While the clock may not compare to what a person like you can do with hand-tools, it's 100x better than what *I* can do with hand-tools. And there are a lot more people who can afford the clock above made with a Carvewright, than ones who can afford one hand-made by you. That doesn't mean that I think that you don't have an abundant amount of clients willing to pay for your work... I believe you do.
I'm sorry, I should have said entry-level "person with a carving machine".. I would never ever dare to refer to myself as a 'CARVER' as in the way you are a carver.... but I have had quite a bit of FUN with my machine..... which is basicly what my point was originally. The Cricut is made for hobbyists (cardmakers), and is good for them. I doubt anyone has ever bought one expecting to make a living from it.... so it shouldn't really be judged against a professional machine.
Yes, there is a lot of garbage being made with Carvewrights, but there's a lot of garbage being made with Shopbots, Multicams and every other type of machine... not everyone with one of those is automatically a Raymond Chapman or a Grampa Dan.
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-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Jantz: Yes, there is a lot of garbage being made with Carvewrights, but there's a lot of garbage being made with Shopbots, Multicams and every other type of machine.
There's a lot of garbage being made with chisels and mallets, too. Don't believe me? Wanna see my last attempt at carving a chunk of mahogany?
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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