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I've got a metal wall to letter here. This will be one color (black) painted on metal with vertical 2" thick ribs every 10". It's going on the exterior wall of a storage building facing the highway. There will be 27 letters at 40" tall each, one line of copy . This can be done off of a 8' step ladder. Total dimensions are 40" x 68' long. There is a nice flat surface for the ladders and easy access.
What is a ball park figure you would charge? Paint, pattern & one days work.
Thanks, Jerry
-------------------- Jerry Berg South Paw Sign Washington State Posts: 87 | From: Washington State | Registered: Jun 2007
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Figure patternmaking time plus set-up time and actual painting time. Add them all together and multiply by your shop rate?
I wasn't a painter but that's basically how I priced things using vinyl.
You MIGHT lose a bit of profit, if it is the first time doing a job like this, but it will be a lesson learned in pricing. Lord knows I lost profit many times when doing a certain type of job for the first time.
OR....You can use Si's method, charge as much as you can without breaking out in laughter!!! BUT if the customer agrees to that price, wait until you are away from the phone or the customer before starting to cry!!!!
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FWIW, last year my dear old walldog friend and I bid on a job. We gave a three-tiered price, the lowest being $2500 for straight text on a job smaller than this but a bit more intricate. If memory serves it went up to $3500 with a complex pictorial. All on straight block, newly painted. The guy nearly had an apoplexy. He had been quoted at $4K for vynull on aluminum, applied to the building by the biggest sign hack in town. (which I can't figure out, the materials were nearly $2K) I drove past this place a few months back. It has vynull in Goudy as tall as you can stretch it on a 4'x8' aluminum. Looks like ass. One of the panels is missing, apparantly fallen. I heard thru the grapevine that this guy bitched to anyone who would listen what a gouger I was.
I would be at $1500 for this job, it doesn't sound that bad. Materials would be what...about $150 tops? Maybe $1750 if you are feeling generous? Love.....Jill http://www.letterville.com/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/5/302.html? edited to add link to topic, my numbers are a bit off but that was last year.
[ September 02, 2008, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: Jillbeans ]
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Yea, I hear ya people. This is a 3,000 job. I can knock this thing out in less than a day. I normally would'nt ask about a job like this, but we got a low-baller in the area that just wont go away. They do $1,000 jobs for $250. I'm just sick of it. I started thinking maybe my prices are too high. I should have known better. I do plenty of this type of work outside of my area, but not here cuz of the starving artist low-ballers. There work is not good either, but people around here only look at price. I thought if I do one of these for 1,500 I'll get some more exposure. And, I won't cutt the price on any further work. I just want to get this job. A quick $1,500 is'nt all that bad. I can knock something like this out quick. Easy money for me. Still, it's a low quote. What to do?.....
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Depends on what you want out of the relationship with this customer. If you are looking for exposure to other customers - based on your quality work and not your "low price" - and you're in need of work - then perhaps the lower price is the way to go. Remember that whatever you establish a relationship on with a new customer is what it will be based on in *their* mind, however - and therefore they will always expect low prices in the future if you give them one today.
When we establish relationships we inevitably create one "fundamental" that can't change without threatening the relationship.
[ September 03, 2008, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: Mark Smith ]
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