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Joe Cieslowski
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I've got a sign that is burgundy in color and it has a large oval at the top that will contain a gilded dragon fly. What color do you suggest for the oval?

Thanks, from the original color cripple. [Wink]

joe,

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Charleston Green perhaps to help set off the gold?

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ummmmm, I've never been to Charlston.....is it like a blue green, dark green, light green, gray green???? I tried dark green but it looks too Xmassy.

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Joe,
Try pool table green. LOL
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Charleston Green is so dark that it almost looks black. Its a lot darker than any of the usual dark greens. I've used it in conjunction with burgundy and beige quite a bit and its far from looking Christmassy.

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Gotcha.....Thank You!!

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I was thinking a very deep teal-y green.
Some of the damselflies I've seen on the river have this color on their bodies.
Love....Jill

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Your dragon fly might look better in palladium leaf than in gold, since the palladium is closer to true dragon fly coloration. Or maybe both gold and white gold... Anyway, I 100% agree with Jill on the oval color.

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Thanks Jill and Frank,

I think I got that teal-y color by adding too much black to dark green er I ment dark blue......sheesh

Frank......I ain't got none of that fancy leaf!!!! [Wink] And you know how I like to spend money...... [Rolling On The Floor]

Thanks again!

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Joe Cieslowski
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What about copper colour? That goes nice with burgundy.

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Thanks Deri,

Copper might look good over the bergundy but gold probly won't show too well on the copper.

A conundrum........

joe,

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Thinking "outside of the square"...

Do the oval in black and, once dry, bagging from the center outward with OS Pearlescent Green. Interesting backround with some nice touches when the light plays with it, but still dark enough to keep the contrast on the dragonfly.

Rapid

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Very interesting idea Ray. I like it. And as you know, I can bag it with the best of em. I just can't figure out how that has anything to do with paint????? [Wink]

joe,

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That is a great suggestion Ray.
Love...Jill

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OK, I'm gonna try a sample Ray....... Which pearl green? I have Process green, Dark Green and Blue Green.

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Blue Green.
Or mix it up with a bit of each.
Drizzle some on and bag till it's right, maybe making the center where the dragon fly goes the darkest portion.
Love...Jill

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Actually, Joe, I was thinking of the Pearlescent paint that has the pearl in it for a bit of the metallic look, but Process Green would be a good choice as well as you have it in stock.

Have a blast!
Rapid

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Ray,

I got all the pearls......process it is!

I'll give it a try right now.

Thanks!

joe,

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Oppps, I didn't see Jills.......now I'm confused????

joe,

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Thanks for the call Ray.......now it's time to play.

Hmmmm, I didn't know i was a poet.....ya right! [Rolling On The Floor]

joe,

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Post a pic when you finish Joe - it sounds like another masterpiece.........

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OK

Here's the Charlston Green with Process Green Pearls bagged....

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maybe a litle less Process green.....but I think it's a pretty good effect. We'll see what the customer thinks.....how about you?

Thanks,

joe,

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That looks lovely Joe!
What a great suggestion from Rapid.
Can't wait to see the finished piece.
Love....Jill

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Sounds fascinating - can't wait to see the pics of the finished article.
A question from a rookie - what is "bagging" ?
thanks, karen

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Karen,

"Bagging" is simply applying paint with a plastic bag or plastic wrap. Even a shopping bag will do.

Generally I do it this way..
Pour the paint you will be using onto a magazine page or other nonporous disposable surface. (Keeps the paint from drying up too quick on larger jobs.) Wad the plastic wrap up a bit to wrinkle it and get a random surface, then dip it into the paint. Dab it on your surface trying not to get a pattern, but a more random look.
You can use this effect for not only backrounds, but masked areas or lettering as well.

Variations on this include using two or more colors at once, black and white to get a stone effect, etc.

Another way is to spray or paint the area and drape a sheet of plastic wrap over it, giving it a gently rub and removing it.
This method can usually be seen on vehicles that have a alligator skin look in the striping and has been done in body shops for years. It's is especially cool when metallics or candy paints are used.

It can be a messy process. Natural sea sponges or even fake flowers can give you a similar effect.

Hope that made sense...
Rapid

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Joe,
Is it done yet??? I wanna seeeeeee. The pic above is way cool, beautiful, can't wait to see the whole sign.

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OK,

I'm almost ready.....got the OK from my customer.

I'm still debating the best step-by process. The finished area will hve an incised and gilded dragonfly with 3 stars thrown into the background. The oval will also have a V cut around it which will also be gilded. The panel will be pre-finished so I'll be using a hand cut mask.

Here's what I'm thinking...mask the oval and do the V cut outline....then prime and clear it....but not gild.
Then remove center oval mask and paint and bag......wet on wet as I did in the sample.
When dry, mask the oval again and carve the dragonfly and stars....prime, paint and gild.
Remove mask and gild the oval V cut.

I think this is the shortest/best route......whada ya think????
I have untill tomorrow to decide.

I'll take some step x step photos too.

Thanks again,

joe,

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Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery
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