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Alan Johnson
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While working at a car show this past weekend I was asked how flaking clear could be stopped,repaired or saved. The antique school bus was beautify lettered by a sign man named Ed Howard from the Sussex, N.J. area, but has moved away. The owner of this vehicle said that Ed was not happy with the clear coat that the sign supply co. recommended, he thought it was an Acrylic Clear. The owner didn't know what brand of clear was used,but only clear that meets the description is 1-Shot's Speed Dry UV Acrylic Clear # 4005. My question is , has anyone encountered and solved this problem? Or does anyone know to get in touch with Ed Howard? I would hate to see this gold job have to be redone again at the owners great expense . Thanks for your impute in advance. "maintain" AJ

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Alan Johnson
Alan Johnson Grafix
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Bob Rochon
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Alan,

I have had the same problem happen and the only solution I used was to do it over.

Sorry!

I hope someone else offers up a remedy

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Bob Rochon
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Alan Johnson
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Thanks Bob That's what I thought too.

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Alan Johnson
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Pete Payne

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i've blown the loose clear off with high pressure air if it's really loose and flaky, for stubborn ares you might need to score it with a knife along the edges, re clear with urethane and hide the edge with an outline, not perfect but maybe better than a re do? depends how loose the clear is and size of the job
good luck, maintain....your sense of humour!

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Pete Payne
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I've seen a job which was cleared with penetrol- & it peeled off about a year or two after being applied. I was called in to remedy the problem, and a good air blast removed it pretty easily- just the dried penetrol, not the gold, that is.

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Gonzalo (Peewee)Curiel
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I had the same thing happen to me.. what I did was take some masking tape (3m automotive) and apply it on the leaf and remove .. it pulled 90-95 percent off.. I since use Dupont clear brushed on..

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Gonzalo Curiel
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Thanks for the impute, I'll pass this info on to the customer. I have used most of these tricks too. I have been using a Sikkens single stage varnish for years now with no come backs , knock on wood. This varnish dries slow , it reminds me of the Dulux clear. Why do all the good products go away! Maintain AJ

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Ron Percell
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Dust and clean, then recoat with the Sikkens for a salvage job.

We see this often on vehicles transported from the eastcoast to the west coast.

On Restorations I've found that Banner tape works well on removing the loose Clear, but can also remove the clear and gold if your not careful.


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Ron

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Ron Percell
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stein Saether
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Flaking may be caused by
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Gold leaf is on top of gold leaf, with no glue inbetween.
2
Someones greasy fingers touched the gold before clearing
3
Someone pressurecleaned the object

After gilding try pressureair to remove loose gold
Dont touch the gold when surfacegilding, use the patent paper to press
Let glue dry and cure before clearing

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Stein Saether
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Trondheim

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