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Kevin W. Betz
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I am making a 4'x8' Sign for a friend. It will be a Black Background; Omega Board. Here is the Question:
Would you clear the Gold or not? The Sign will be 15' in the air, attached to the building. I know adding Clear will help to the Luster, but not clearing it will last much longer.

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Kevin Betz
KB Sign Company
21321 Ulrich
Clinton Township, MI 48036
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David Harding
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If it's real Gold, clearing won't help the luster. My experience is that clearing makes it look more like gold paint. Nothing is as good as genuine Gold in all its glory.

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David Harding
A Sign of Excellence
Carrollton, TX

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Joe Cieslowski
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What David said plus the gold will outlast the clear ten times over.

I'm sure it's gonna be a beauty! [Smile]

joe,

Makin Chips and Havin Fun!

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Joe Cieslowski
Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery
P.O.Box 368
East Canaan CT 06024
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Ditto Dave and Joe.

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Rick Heller
Ohio Technical College
1374 E. 51st Street
Cleveland, OH 44103
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Kent Smith
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Slow size will also last the longest.

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Kent Smith
Smith Sign Studio
P.O.Box 2385,
Estes Park, CO 80517-2385
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Rene Giroux
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yep

[Cool]

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Rene Giroux
Perfexion.ca
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bill riedel
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It is most important that you use only 23kt gold leaf. It is the only one that need no clear.
Bill

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Bill Riedel
Riedel Sign Co., Inc.
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Little Ferry, N.J. 07643
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Kevin W. Betz
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Thanks for the input. My next Question is: Has anyone used the new mix of Slow Size from Le Franc. I heard the were forced to take out the Lead? Any truth to this?

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Kevin Betz
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So far, so good, it looks different in color, but after 12 hours it still works as well. We just have to hold our breath and wait several years to see if it holds up as well as the original.
Will they ever leave well enough alone?
Bill

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Bill Riedel
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Kevin........Gary Anderson had trouble with the new Lefrancs over acrylics. You may need a layer of Ti-Cote if you're gilding over water-based paints.
As Bill said, I haven't heard of any problems other than that.

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Rodger MacMunn
T.R. MacMunn & Sons
C.P.207, Sharbot Lake, ON
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Art Essentials told me the first reformulation had some major problems before they formulated it again. He was pretty ticked at LeFranc for sending the initial product out to market with problems. He says the newer mix should be good but he dropped the LeFranc line after those issues.

I haven't had any experience with the new product but you might check on exactly when it was made. I don't know when it was changed to the current formulation. I used up my old supply of LeFranc and am trying some Rolco now.

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David Harding
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I've heard Rolco is better than the reformulated LeFranc. I used some and it worked great. BUT, that was my first experience with ANY slow size. I have a pint of original LeFranc so I'll try it some day and see if I notice a difference.

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Dave Sherby
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SherWood Sign & Graphic Design
Crystal Falls, MI 49920
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Again, Thanks for the Input. 2 more Questions:
Is Rolco, Waterbased or Oilbased. 2nd, has anyone tried to Route a piece of Mother Pearl...?
Before I forget, Happy Mothers Day to All. [Smile]

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Kevin Betz
KB Sign Company
21321 Ulrich
Clinton Township, MI 48036
kbsigncompany@att.net

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Happy mother's day to you too, Kevin.

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Rodger MacMunn
T.R. MacMunn & Sons
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They might make both but the Rolco I have is oil based.

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Dave Sherby
"Sandman"
SherWood Sign & Graphic Design
Crystal Falls, MI 49920
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Thanks Dave. I think I will do a test panel. Does it tack up in the 12hr period?

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Kevin Betz
KB Sign Company
21321 Ulrich
Clinton Township, MI 48036
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