Hi all a client wants me to paint this logo on to 2ft diameter zinc anneal discs. The client wants it to look aged as it is an old logo he feels if it was painted new it may not look right. what techniques do you use to make it look old and would you use enamel or water based paints. I have tried to do a search on this topic and i feel I need more info.
-------------------- Mark Stokes Mark Stokes Signs Mount Barker South Australia Posts: 388 | From: Mount Barker | Registered: Jan 2005
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One thing that I have seen an artist do is to get rubber cement and splatter it across the design before you paint it. Then when your done you peel up the now hardened rubber as it works like a mask. This works better if you are spraying the design I think. But it makes a nice effect as if the design "peeled" up in areas as if it were worn. Im sure others here have some tricks up thier sleeves for making things look worn as well. -L-
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paint it with one shot and throw it out in the sun for 6 months
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Lots of ways to do this. Use thick & thin paint to vary density. I'd use 1 shot psoter series, it dries flat. Sandpaper, scotch brite, wire brush to age it. Spatter it with some dark specs. You probably should also age the panel which may work best before painting. Have him give you some scraps to experiment with.
1Shot lettering through a mask. (Thick & thin paint like Bill said. When I'm doing this I use lacquer thinner)
with the mask on cover in baby powder.
Squeegee on application tape (it forces the baby powder into the paint to flatten it & lifts paint in a random fashion)
Remove application tape & mask
That's how I make mine, but I sure there are other ways.
Let's hear it folks. How do you make a new sign look old?
[ February 12, 2008, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Ryan Culbertson ]
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Take stain, or dirty laquer with some brown and black paint in it, smear it on with a rag spontaneously but first drag it around the shop for awhile, nip a gauge here and there....I put some of mine under my water drain area off the back roof, and then let 'er bake in da hot sun too.
I'd post a pic but...well you know.
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Probably stating the obvious but mute your paints also so they are not "new looking" colors.Seems a while back a fellow who did movie props had some tips. check archives.
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Cool Ryan I like that may have to try.. We also will use scratch it with sandpaper then use a Stain like mike Says but I just use a Minwax that I have laying around..
Also don't forget to take it out and do some target practice with a 357. Thats Si's weather method.
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Ryan like your idea with the paint mask as i wanted to go this way. With the baby powder do you apply it when the enamel has tacked of a bit or when you have apllied it
-------------------- Mark Stokes Mark Stokes Signs Mount Barker South Australia Posts: 388 | From: Mount Barker | Registered: Jan 2005
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We got some of Mr. Meyers aged signs hanging at our place. They are awesome, especially the one with the old mirror built in that says “Ugliest Sign Painter in Illinois” Mark Z does some nice vintage signs too.
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Green - Thinned - Added A LOT of powder - then painted - application tape
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Hi Ryan thanks for info, how does the paint dry with the powder in it by this I mean is it grainy/lumpy with the powder in it or does the powder make the paint go dull/flat and does it go to a smooth finish as normal enamel does. Hope i make sense.
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Add a little more lacquer Thinner it should take care of it.
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Alot of the one's I have done were just signs I wanted to make for my own personal gallery. They have been outside weathering and they get better looking as they age. Just like me...ouch ouch..stop..don't throw any more rocks..
OK I take it back...They look more "Authentic" with age, because they ARE GETTING OLD! like me.
Some are turning grey, like me. They just hang there on the wall...limp. like me.
Someday someone will want them. like me.
Ryan, when I travel to Huntsville Alabama, I'm gonn ahunt you, Donald and Ryan down and we'll ask Faig, Snow and any other of their odd blood to get together and jam..maybe do some of these old looking signs. like me.
Are you gonna get the Cigars ready Rebel Boy?
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There are a number of ways to age signs and you have gotten a bunch of good advice. Before you start, you need to determine what method was used to produce the sign when it was first made. Hand lettered? Silk screened? etc. and do your aging accordingly. With it being a Dodge logo I would figure it would have been screened. It would have aged fairly evenly, a little more fading on he bottom and NO brushstrokes. If it was painted on site, like on a wall, then there are going to be brushstrokes everywhere and the fading is going to be really uneven.
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I remember seeing some stuff that Tom and Kathy Durham did years ago; the paint was probably still tacky but it looked 200 years old - masterfully done. Maybe they can do a how to.
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