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Our program has suddenly stopped loading new fonts. The fonts appear in the font folder but do not show up in Corel. Any suggestions as to what may be going on?
-------------------- Barb Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 Posts: 45 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Jul 2007
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There are 1308 fonts in the font folder. There are 898 fonts in Corel. When the fonts were downloaded they came in a zip folder and then was asked where to put them. The folder was put directly in the font folder and extracted the files from the zip and drug into the font folder. Approximately 10 of the new fonts showed up in Corel yesterday but are now gone. 18 of the new fonts (of approximately 100 downloaded) show up in Adobe.
-------------------- Barb Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 Posts: 45 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Jul 2007
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AHA! they are not installed....just sitting there.
Go to Start, Control Panel, Fonts, Filer, Install New Font, then go to the folder that contains the new fonts. Select all the fonts that you want and click OK.
That will install them properly and you will be able to use them in Corel.
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I believe Si is correct, they did not get installed. The method he suggested will ensure that Windows actually installs the fonts.
Barb, one thing to keep in mind is that overloading your font folder will cause your system to slow down and sometimes cause flaky problems as well... 500-600 fonts is pushing the limit, over 1,000 is just asking for trouble.
Doing some font folder housecleaning might help prevent some headaches, and also make your computer boot faster.
One thing I might add, I don't know what OS you are running, but on Windows 98 and ME there used to be a limit to how many fonts you could install. They'd still show up in the Windows Font Folder, but they wouldn't actually 'Install' and would never show up in your programs. XP doesn't have that limit.
[ September 26, 2007, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Jon Jantz ]
-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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Thanks Si and Jon, we'll give that a go. I know we are totally overboard on the fonts. Tend to be a font junky. Will let you know how it turns out. I knew I could count on this site to help us out...Thanks!
-------------------- Barb Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 Posts: 45 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Jul 2007
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Okay, the computer that is overloaded with all the fonts the option under file "install new font" option doesn't even come up. Maybe it is so overloaded with fonts it can't accept anymore?
Also, when we try and delete fonts the majority of them say "cannot delete. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is not currently in use".
-------------------- Barb Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 Posts: 45 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Jul 2007
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The truth of the matter is, Windows 98 does not "reach its limit" according to the number of installed fonts at all... it has to do with the length of the font names and their filenames. Furthermore, if a font resides in a location other than the FONTS folder or the SYSTEM folder, the entire path to the font has to be stored in the registry, reducing the number of fonts you may install.
To further compound the problem, Windows 95/98/Me does not tell you when you have reached the limit of installed fonts and it will continue to let you think you are adding fonts to your system when in fact, you are not. Let me explain....
Once you reach that mysterious limit of fonts in Windows, you (or a program installation) can keep adding fonts to the Windows FONTS folder. The fonts will appear to be installed because they are in the folder, but they may not appear in the font menu of your programs. The fonts are unusable because you have reached your system's limit. When this occurs, you will find that as you delete fonts, the number of installed fonts that is indicated in the Status bar when viewing the Windows FONTS folder, does not change. This is because as you delete fonts, those extra, unusable fonts are moving up and becoming usable again. When you finally see this number in the status bar actually begin to decrease, you know you are making progress.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Jon Jantz: 500-600 fonts is pushing the limit, over 1,000 is just asking for trouble.
I can't belive that I'm going to say this, and I am gonna catch heck for it...
Anyone want to have a contest to see how many fonts they have loaded? I'm a font junkie, and I cant seem to stop...4692 fonts
My system runs fine (much better than my last system). Now before anyone says it, I know I don't need that many, but I have a bunch that I like to use, and I do work for a couple of other companies, and they have their own font choices, so its easier to just have them loaded, than to have to keep asking them to convert to curves and resend.
-------------------- Mark Kottwitz Kottwitz Graphics Ridgely, MD www.SeeMySignWork.com -------------------------- Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein Posts: 746 | From: Ridgely, MD | Registered: Oct 2000
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Thanks! That makes sense...but, how do I get around the problem I mentioned earlier that it won't let me delete the fonts we don't want?....."when we try and delete fonts the majority of them say "cannot delete. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and that the file is not currently in use". I thought it was maybe on fonts we have actually used...but that doesn't seem to be the case.
-------------------- Barb Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 Posts: 45 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Jul 2007
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Barb, I'd reboot the computer and try to delete them before I start any other programs at all. Apparently something is running in the background that is using some of the fonts.
By the way, what version of Windows are you running? It would help to know that.
Mark, you are correct, in XP you can have unlimited fonts... about the only drawback is it make your computer boot slower and programs load slower.
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There must be something wrong with me. I have around 140 installed in Corel and could probably live with one fourth of those. Too many choices wastes an awful lot of time.
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We are running Windows XP. We tried to delete them after rebooting the computer yesterday...that didn't work. Will try the other suggestions. George...variety is the spice of life! You never know what font may be around the next corner...
-------------------- Barb Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 Posts: 45 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Jul 2007
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You don't want to delete system fonts also are you logged in as the system administrator?
You could google a list of WinXP system fonts so you don't remove the wrong ones.
It is still possible Windows fonts cache file is corrupt. Delete the font cache file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and reboot Windows so it can regenerate it.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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I have been using this for many years and it still works well in WindowsXP, no problems.
Try it. It may work, but even if it doesn't in this case, it' a very nice easy program for dealing with fonts and viewing and "trolling" through the fonts you have.
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Wanted to let you all know I signed on as System Administrator as suggested and have been able to delete fonts. Some are still blocked - which they must be the system fonts. But slowly, surely am weeding them out. After looking at the work "Font" hundreds of times they all start to look alike.. Thanks for all the help!
-------------------- Chris Shuster BlueGrass Design, Inc. 16 Court St. Winchester, KY 40391 859-737-4199 Posts: 18 | From: Winchester, KY | Registered: Feb 2007
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