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Mark Bachman
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I'm a graphic designer for feature films (and sign person on my days off!). I've searched the forum about vinyl on aircraft and got a few hints. However, I need to know how to get the vinyl off, without damaging the plane's surface. Low-Tack vinyl?

Any help...greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Mark Bachman
Bachman Studio
Great Barrington, MA USA
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Jake Lyman
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Are these printed graphics? Orajet (oracal) makes a printable vinyl that is supposed to be removable without any residue or damage.

I have it in stock and have used it, though I haven't had to remove any yet.

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Jake Lyman
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Mark Bachman
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Yes, it will be printed. I've found out 3M makes an easy remove paper that's removable up to 2 years. Whether it's removable but still stick to the jet when needed, that's another thing. We have to tell the owner about this, before we can ask permission to do it.

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Mark Bachman
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Definitely get vinyl that can be removed easily. I lettered an aluminum gas tanker once and when the business changed names I could not get the vinyl off.

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Dave Sherby
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SherWood Sign & Graphic Design
Crystal Falls, MI 49920
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Jake Lyman
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I never used it on a jet but on the aluminum sign face it sticks very well.

I have an aluminum oil tanker here right now I will stick a piece on and remove later today to see how well it sticks.

JAKE

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Mark, the FAA requires that all vinyl graphics installed in front of jet engines be a particular 3M material. I can't remember what it's called but I know that it has tiny little pinholes every inch. It has a very aggressive adhesive. You really don't want to have an unapproved vinyl being sucked into a jet engine. Take your average vehicle speed and add a zero.

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quote:
You really don't want to have an unapproved vinyl being sucked into a jet engine.
I can see where that would hard to explain to the owner of the jet.


/ummmmmmm....
//well.... it was *RICKY'S* idea to use magnetics on the aluminum jet, sir.

[ August 10, 2007, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: Jon Jantz ]

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I believe Ricky is right....years ago I worked at Spartan International (aka SparCal...Prostripe...Trimbrite...etc) and the owner - who was a pilot - had us working on some aeronautic related projects in which we had to use perforated vinyl.

It was something about the combination of atmospheric pressure, temperatures, and speed that would make standard vinyl fly off the plane's surface....which, as you might imagine could be catastrophic.

So, I'd research this one very carefully....as their could be bigtime liability issues.

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Todd Gill
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It's about air pressure...on some little hot rods I've been involved in, the outer skin of the plane will move up to 3/4"-1", if vinyl isn't perforated, it will lose it's bond and fly off, the holes allow for the shrinkage/stretch outer skin will be subjected to while entering and exiting different zones of air pressure....don't believe me? Ask an aeronatical engineer...probably didn't know that they weigh the paint for those planes either did cha? Close tolerances....

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How about calling the aircraft's manufacturer?

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Bill Lynch
Century Sign
Hamden, CT
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Ive done FILM work before..MAYBE its just for a CAMERA SHOT?
(GOOD WORK...thy PAY you to put it on..then pay you to take it off)

Otherwise he would'nt be WANTING to take it OFF!
???????

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Kelly Chatham
Kelly's Signs Inc.
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Jax., FL, 32244

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Just a thought. If it's a static shot (not moving or running), why not use a static cling on the aluminum? It'd come right off. Like I said, just a thought.

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Greg McRoberts
MacSign
Dayton, Ohio

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