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Yes, it's "something to think about", maybe we don't care, but our kids and their kids should know. starting to learn the chinese language w/ my brother, as he's been learning for a few years now. Good move, I think.
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Deb bie, why would you want to learn Chinese except for ordering at a restaurant, with so many dialects it really gets hard for most two way conversations. English is the most common language the world over.
BTW if thats what anyone gets out of this than I made a mistake as this video isn't about tomorrow.
Now I know why I'm with Karyn in regards to my 4:20 how bout you?
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My niece and her sweetie just left this morning. She's been in Beijing for ten years and he's from a small village there originally. He's well educated and barely speaks any English, and she's fluent in several Chinese dialects. Last night we were at a party where several Americans that speak Chinese were jabbering away and I was so amazed that I didn't feel left out. Anyway, I've known many folks from China that have university educations and don't speak English.
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus Posts: 6718 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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This afternoon at the local Legion, there was the usual talk amongst the retirees about golf.
Typical topic during the summer in Canada.
This afternoon was slightly different as the old farts were talking about what links they had found on the internet for golf vacations this coming winter.
Times are changing.
I'm 63 and just spent a week negotiating, via e-mail, a 6 month rental agreement with our Mexican landlord, who is in his early 80's!
[ July 27, 2007, 07:44 PM: Message edited by: Dave Grundy ]
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Joey, Thank you for that one. Very interesting. I'm 68, and because of computers/internet, I am learning more, and at a faster rate, than at any other time in my life.
-------------------- William "Irish" Holohan Resting...Read "Between Jobs." Marlboro, MA 01752 email: firemap1@aol.com Posts: 1110 | From: Marlboro, MA | Registered: Dec 2001
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Excessive information and access to it is fine, but if the human brain can only comprehend so much, then what good is all that excess ??
It's like driving past a sign that's been overloaded with copy. What you aren't able to absord within the time span that you're willing to give it, is simply WASTED.
I'll probably never have the inclination to research all of the known information regarding a specific topic, but it's nice to know that it's out there, should I choose to look for it, even if whatever I manage to find out will become "outdated" within a very short time.
-------------------- Ken Henry Henry & Henry Signs London, Ontario Canada (519) 439-1881 e-mail: kjmlhenry@rogers.com
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quote:Originally posted by Ken Henry: It's like driving past a sign that's been overloaded with copy. What you aren't able to absord within the time span that you're willing to give it, is simply WASTED.
It's not wasted. While you may not be able to read the whole thing with your conscious mind, you'd be surprised to know that the subconscious has taken a snapshot of every single word and filed it in memory, without you knowing about it. It's why advertisers spend so much money on advertising.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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quote:Originally posted by KARYN BUSH: omg..information overload...i'm setting my clock back to 4:20.
4:20 is my favorite time of the day! See ya there Karen and Joey.
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It's not wasted. While you may not be able to read the whole thing with your conscious mind, you'd be surprised to know that the subconscious has taken a snapshot of every single word and filed it in memory, without you knowing about it. It's why advertisers spend so much money on advertising. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Mike, my subconscious is a veritable cesspool of useless information that I've somehow acquired, over the years. It's a place I really wouldn't choose to go to and attempt to sort out/retreive much of the information buried there. That's the stuff that nightmares are born from, or so the shrinks might have us believe. Although some have developed the ability of photographic type recall, I'd tend to think that such an ability would tax severely, my limited brain power.
Long story short: If I can't digest or absorb the information presented within a reasonable time parameter, I don't even consider taxing my subconscious recollection ability, in order to do so.
My point in commenting on the subject of that clip is that there is such a thing as "information overload". Some is critical, some is interesting, some might be entertaining, and some of it is most definately useless. Just because the useless information exists, does that somehow obligate me to seek it out and digest it ? No doubt there may be several types of toxic plants native to Tanzania, buy if I never plan on going there, why should I need such information.
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It's like driving past a sign that's been overloaded with copy. What you aren't able to absord within the time span that you're willing to give it, is simply WASTED.
I'll probably never have the inclination to research all of the known information regarding a specific topic, but it's nice to know that it's out there, should I choose to look for it, even if whatever I manage to find out will become "outdated" within a very short time.
No, not so much like too many billboards on the highway... I thjink it's much more like clicking through a google search on the information highway, & a subject like "letterhead" for example might bring up many billboards worth of information... but noticing one about a sign community might interest you, while printing suppliers would interest someone else, & print designers may interest a third person.
The abundance of access to information does not represent waste, it represents choice.
As for the topic of information becoming outdated... that's life, but learning what's new today isn't wasted either, because "upgrading" your comprehension of slightly outdated information will be easier then being blindsided by an entirely new "operating system" of life if someone has kept their head in the sand too long.
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Don't get into a "****ing match" with Doug or Mike. It ain't worth it.
You would be correct in the end, but neither would admit it and the posts would continue until 2022!! lol
Edited to add..There would also be a whole bunch of "quotes" as well.
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So what, just unplug the computor, and life gets back to normal.
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While y'alls was cruisin round 4;20 I was at 8:40 just about noon time. Rollin'like a big wheel down na'Georgia cotton field.One in each hand. Weren't nuthin being no bother to me at all...
Would somebody, fly up here t' git me?
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...Technology is moving faster and faster. Everybody wants more, more, more. And we waste, waste, waste everything. As landfills get bigger and bigger (stuffed w. plastic and broken crap from china).
...What's happening? Are we nearing the TIPPING POINT? ...How far CAN our lifestlye go?
quote:Originally posted by Joey Madden: Deb bie, why would you want to learn Chinese except for ordering at a restaurant, with so many dialects it really gets hard for most two way conversations. English is the most common language the world over.
English is not the most common language spoken in the world. Mandarin is. There is debate about the 2nd through 5th most common between spanish, arabic, hindi and english.
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Ni hao Brian, I apologize for my statement but there is a difference between native speakers and the common spoken language in our world in most all countries including New Jersey which I believe in still English. Some years back Quebec asked the FAA to speak French when landing planes there, their airport was closed for a week before changing their tune. In Europe its a different ballgame although not standardized as in most English speaking countries. I didn't come prepared for a battle of wits but I do know that in our world right here in Letterville, the most common language is English, at least for now.
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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........i had to go about 1 minute before i named the "tune"- william wallace !
after all that data implying the u.s. is falling behind........a picture of the travelocity's traveling knome(?) holding a pinstipe brush asking...are we going to die ?
happy Aug. to all !
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quote:Originally posted by Dave Grundy: ...Don't get into a "****ing match"
...It ain't worth it.
It's a shame that discussion of alternate views can so easily be labeled a peeing match.
Most of the civilized world governs themselves through a network of trusted leaders making decisions as a group, based on the exchange & subsequent debate of ideas.
Ideas deserve to be held up & examined. Most things (and ideas) can be more accurately defined after a comprehensive study. Multiple viewpoints is a good thing.
by the way... happy birthday Dave
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We aren't nearly as technologically magnificent as the video alludes.
For instance, man has yet to develop a roll of toilet paper that can rip perfectly along the perforations of it's individual squares....it always shreds off into the next 8 squares.
This is chaos theory at it's best....as long as t.p. cannot consistently rip along it's perforations - life will always be in disarray....and anxiety will be the norm.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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My mom worked with computers back in the early '60's as a keypunch operator. The entire company system probably had less power than a Playstation with a memory card.
I began classes in 1984 to learn computer BASIC programming. Some of the work we did was on the National Science Foundation Network (NSFNet) which connected universities together. Before the six month classes were complete, COBAL language kicked in, BASIC language became outdated, and the NSFNet was on the cusp of becoming the World Wide Web via telephone line connections.
Today, I connect to the internet via cable modem and through fiber optic wires at 2000 times the speed of a 14.4 dial up modem with open access to more information than every every college on the planet! With a click, I can store more information on a DVD than 3200 floppy discs, which hadn't yet been invented in 1984.
Tonight, my 4 year old daughter, with a mouse in hand and a pair of headphones on, was playing educational games online that were more advanced than an old Super Nintendo...for free. I remarked to my wife how far technology has come in such a short time and how, by the time little Sarah graduates high school, she'll be doing things we can't even imagine yet.
A funny thing just occurred to me... There are approximately 1.1 billion people online, all of who could read this post. With the exception of China, that's more people than any one country on the planet.
Staggers the mind... Rapid
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