My mind wanders. And that's not a good thing, 'cause it's too small to be out there alone. Posts: 3129 | From: Tooele, UT | Registered: Mar 2005
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Well Ray, I suppose a person could be a doormat for every miscreant and flee the scene to avoid a possible confrontation rather than stick up for one's rights as you suggest...but then I guess that would make us sheep just waiting to be victimized.
For some odd reason, I found it upsetting to find me and my vehicle under aerial attack and I guess I shouldn't have had the gall to think that I could travel the countryside in peace without dodging bottle rockets aimed toward the road, and targeted no less than three from my head.
Joey, do I really need to search up your many posts regaling us with how someone whizzed you off about some inane thing...and you told them to screw off, packed up your trailer and moved to a different state where people are nicer? Hahaha...yeah, the herb really works for you doesn't it? You gotta be running out of states by now, aren't you?
Jeesh .... did I not mention that I accepted the guys apology after discovering what happened?
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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While a "Darwin" is in order, it's still sad. Especially when I realized she's most likely a distant relative of mine.
As far as Todd's experience. I knew it was gonna be a good one when I saw the thread title. Too bad it didn't happen in a drive-in theater. Probably would have made CNN.
-------------------- Paul Bierce - Designer pabierce@hotmail.com www.paulbierce.com Posts: 330 | From: Dix Hills, NY | Registered: Jan 2005
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Well...let's see now. Your first impression was that it was a kid (first judgement based upon your thoughts and not any actual fact) and that it was intentional (it turned out to have been accidental).
You assumed that it had done damage to your truck...which it didn't.
So, you reacted in a way based upon assumptions, that later proved to be wrong.
What rights were you sticking up for? What about the rights of the guy not to have someone come onto his private property and accuse him of something that was not accurate.
"Well Ray, I suppose a person could be a doormat for every miscreant and flee the scene to avoid a possible confrontation rather than stick up for one's rights as you suggest...but then I guess that would make us sheep just waiting to be victimized."
I don't know what a miscreant is but you don't have to be a doormat to check out the real story before you "stick up for your rights".
"as you suggest" - where did I suggest anything (other than to be careful)?
"targeted" - I thought you accepted his apology that it was an accident? How could he have targeted you if if was an accident?
Sheep? Seems like I read about someone else refering to us as sheep.
Sorry Todd, not very impressive to me.
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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Last week as I was boarding the shuttle to take me where my car was parked at the airport a police officer approached the driver and asked him if he was the fellow who had left a rather nasty note on the windshield of her cruiser. The driver launched into a verbal terrade expressing his displeasure at where she had parked, partially blocking the road. In a calm manner the officer tried to explain that they had arrived in a hurry to deal with a death at the airport. She was obviously distraught.
The driver got instantly abusive, not understanding of the situation and things got out of hand pretty quick. It was ugly, not by the officer but rather by the driver of our shuttle. Attempting to dissarm the situation the officcer asked the driver to step out of the vehicle... but he wrenched the door shut and pealed rubber with the bus, narrowlt missing the officer...
It was stupid, wreckless and needless. I thought we would be pulled over long before we got to the long term paking lot but I guess the officer declided to let things to... or catch him on his next trip around.
The incident made me thing of how unecessary the whole situation was and how the driver had over reacted so accutely. It also made me realise how on occasion in my younger days I would have blown up just as thoughtlessly. It made me see just howw silly I had made situation where a different reaction might have achieved far different results. Being 'right' isn't necessarily the best way to handle a situation. It made me ashamed of those times... and it made me more determined to be much slower to react in the future.
Less volatile reactions in a crisis will often get far better results in my experience aand I have done things both ways. Treating others with respect, even those in the wrong will also win you far more respect.... and keep you out of trouble... even if you are 'right'.
Been there, done that and not proud of it... but determined not to go there anymore in Yarrow...
-grampa dan
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Being a grampa is one of the the most wonderful things in the world!!! Posts: 8738 | From: Yarrow, B.C. Canada | Registered: Nov 1998
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I'm not sure what the real story is because it was changed by the time I read it, but I can say that if I was driving down the road and someone hit my truck with any type of firework, you can bet your bumpkins I would stop as well.
There are too many idiots in this world that just do not care for anyone or anyone's property, and when they get caught pulling crap like this, it's always "it was an accident" or some other stupid excuse.
Anger management to learn to deal with idiots??? Maybe, but I think the idiots need the counseling, not the folks like you or I who just go about our lives driving down the road minding our own business.
-------------------- Randy Graphic Details Promotional Merchandise Distributor South Glens Falls, NY Posts: 381 | From: South Glens Falls, NY USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Todd, you've got a vivid imagination too. I have heard all the stories in regards to my lifestyle but I don't let it bother me, my mom used to tell her friends that I was like the wind as I would come and go at any given point. I know thats not what you meant but can assure you, you haven't a clue to what you're talking about.
You really need to get a grip on yourself before someone puts an end to your judgmental views of others.
have a nice day for a change
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Todd, I wasn't defending the other guy...I was making fun of you.
And, yes, it has happened to me (rock, not fireworks)and it was intentional (teenager) and it broke my windshield, but I didn't react the way you did. That doesn't make me better, just different.
I'll take the Mother Theresa comparison as a compliment. Maybe the world would be a better place if there were more like her.
-------------------- Chapman Sign Studio Temple, Texas chapmanstudio@sbcglobal.net Posts: 6306 | From: Temple, Texas, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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right on Joey... or in other words... kuityerbytchin!
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I happened upon this post while stopping in with the chance that I might have a question answered...and low and behold, a posting that all too often breaths life into the exact reason that most suffer from the lack of respect that they feel they deserve here as well the reason that I do not make this site an ongoing part of my life anymore.
I have chanced on many of your posts Todd, and although I have never met you, I surely don't feel as tho I am missing anything.
You, as others are so quick to judge and often end up on the wrong side of the moral/ideological tracks...which only interprets to either a lack of intelligence or pure ignorance. You seem to always try to find a fight to pick...and one day you are going to pick the wrong person to screw with.
I would personally be embarassed to share a story that exudes both total lack of control, patience, humility and intelligence as the one above.
I remember attending a woodcarving show once and everyone turned to this one guy and ask him why he was wearing a cast that covered his complete left arm. He obviously loved the attention, then explaining how he proceeded to use his carving knife in a most dangerous way and slicing all of the way up his arm as he drew the knife towards him.
I turned and looked at him and could only reply that if I had done what he did, I would be so embarrasesd of myself, I would lie thru my teeth to avoid anyone knowing how stupid I was. He was silent for the rest of the time he was there.
I have ripped myself away from commenting on such posts as this one many times, but must say to you and others here that bring this kind of nonsense to this board, that some of the great talents, vendors and artists alike would contribute more to this and similar boards if you would display the same respect for yourself as you expect others to give to you.
OH...and no...I am not here to back up the little guy...He can get out of trouble with the best...howdy Raymond...
just note this one thing...I really don't care what you think of me...but I received a call from Steve S...some time ago...and he said...Why have you not been around lately. My response was...I feel a certain disconnect. Life is so short!
-------------------- Robert Beverly Arlington, Texas Posts: 1023 | From: Arlington, Texas | Registered: Jan 2001
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Jeesh, I read a few other posts and this one is still at the top of the list. Todd, I'm not sure what the story was in the original post, but damn I want to read it now! Can you put it back the way it was so I can see why everyone has turned so religious on you??
It's amazing the reactions on this board depending on who posts the original topic....just an observation.
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-------------------- Randy Graphic Details Promotional Merchandise Distributor South Glens Falls, NY Posts: 381 | From: South Glens Falls, NY USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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I missed what the big deal was too, but I can say, shock effects different people differently.
I'm not proud of some of my weaker moments, but what works for me is a delayed reaction if I can catch myself. After the initial shock of something fades, the outcome is much less tramatic than what it felt like initially. Hence, different way of dealing with the situation.
It isn't easy, but it does work.
As for the rocket, if I was still driving down the road and not into the ditch by that time, I would have turned around to see what had transpired as well.
I remember when I was 16, I was driving my dad's small pickup. I didn't look behind me properly while backing up quickly in a parking lot and rammed into a small very low convertable. All I felt was a BANG and a woman scream. I got out of the truck and quickly ran to see what had happened. The lady in the passenger side was shaking and there was glass all over her. I was so tramatized by the event I had a breakdown right then and there, sobbing for forgiveness. No reaction from the driver at all. After awhile he silently said, "I think you've suffered enough!" LOL Guess it pays to repent!
quote: I turned and looked at him and could only reply that if I had done what he did, I would be so embarrasesd of myself, I would lie thru my teeth to avoid anyone knowing how stupid I was. He was silent for the rest of the time he was there.
Robert, so you lambast Todd for speaking his mind to someone who endangered his family by being an idiot, but then go on to say how you yourself rudely insult someone, who actually did NOTHING to you??? WTF is that all about?
What a strange reply. I for one would be a lot more comfortable meeting Todd than yourself and am personally glad you don't post here much. Just thought I'd mention that since you state you don't care what anyone thinks of you.
Hey, next time you're tempted to post a bunch of personal insults and character attacks... just do like you said and DISCONNECT.
/would've never guessed Texans wouldn't care if their vehicles got blasted with fireworks //in Alabama, 9 times outta 10 Orange-Shirt woulda toted an ass-whuppin' ///I probably wouldn't have reacted that strongly, but then again, "going Jon" doesn't sound as cool as "going Todd"
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-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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Todd... you know the expression "choose your battles" ... well nobody else can choose them for you in an emotionally charged moment like that... you did what you did... and it ended like it ended... sure you could have shrugged it off, sure he could have shot you... whatever... it's over!
...but fast forward 24 hours... you had to know in posting your story, that you would never receive 100% support (like that ever happens here) ...so why you would start a battle here when you don't recieve 100% support is the behavior that defies logic IMO.
Donna, your story reminds me of when this other drummer friend of mine in High School was taking me with him, in his moms car to finally pick up his brand new drum set he had ordered from the local music store & had waited and waited for. We had one more busy intersection to cross & we were almost there... I think in his mind, we were already there. Anyway, from the passenger side I was watching this car hurtling down the road at 60 mph while I felt my friend inching forward... presumably toeing the line in anticipation of the opening behind this one last car... although it also felt like he was about to go, I resisted the backseat driver urge to state the obvious. That was the last time I ever resisted that urge, although since then, I usually am the driver... but if I'm not the driver, when in doubt I never assume drivers are paying attention... so, here I am in the passenger seat watching my side of his moms little sardine can honda being pulled right in front of a speeding towncar. OUCH!! we got spun around a time or two, & the other driver ended up in a ditch. We ran to the driver & he was old enough to be our father, but as he was extricating himself from the wreckage, he was crying and stuttering... I remember my friend & I looking at each other in fear of this guys condition... untill his sobbing stutter finally formed the words... "my neeeew carrrrrr .....wwaaaaaaa" I want to say we laughed in relief... but I'm not sure if that was possible, though it was quite a relief. The coolest thing was after getting my stitches, my friends mom asked if I'd be unable to fulfill my shifts as a dishwasher (at the same restaurant where her son worked & a dozen of our other best friends) I was pleased to realize I would be able to skip work for a few weeks... but not half as please as when she told me her insurance would pay me my normal wage... That was COOL!!
quote:Originally posted by Jon Jantz: [QUOTE] ///I probably wouldn't have reacted that strongly, but then again, "going Jon" doesn't sound as cool as "going Todd"
nope... it don't sound as wicked... but that comment is another classic comic relief Jantz moment worthy of someone coining a catch phrase someday.
Take it from someone who has been through two years of anger management. If what I just said set your heart rate off, you are all geared up to post in your own defense again and feel that how you reacted to the "bottle rocket terrorist" is beyond reproach....
...maybe Joey isn't so far off the mark as you would like to believe.
He apologized for his mistake. Did you? Rapid
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I like my paint shaken, not stirred. Posts: 5648 | From: North Haverhill, New Hampshire | Registered: Apr 2003
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I've had a chance to sleep on this overnight and I have decided this:
I still feel that I was right in stopping and confronting the situation....but I may have been a little stronger than necessary in my reaction.
So, I think in hindsight I could have reacted somewhat differently, but I do believe I was justified to stop and challenge what happened.
I do see some hypocrisy here in some responses...but people are people, no one is perfect and I am no exception and I apologize if I was offensive to anyone in my remarks.
This simply shows how differently different people would react given a particular circumstance.
Ray R - I have come to respect your postings greatly and will take your comments to heart...
Robert B - wow. Your comments seem far more reactionary than my original story and devoid of it's own measure of restraint. You might be more like me than you care to admit.
Ok...I'll take a chill pill....sorry folks. Have a great day, it's a new day and full of positive new challenges.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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