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Ok...I've been screwing around with my new Fender Strat...learning some new chords and stuff.
I've learned about 6 small parts of 6 different tunes but not one song all the way through. I could be on my way to being Guitar Master of nothing. Hehe.
Anyway...my question:
I was listening to an old ELO tune called "Do You Want My Love" and the very first intro of the song starts out with a simple D/A/G.....then D/A/G followed by a ballsy sounding [what I refer to as] Fret slide.
Are you familiar with that tune?
So, how do they get the ballsy sounding high to low pitch fret slide?? I can't figure this out. I always thought they just ran the pick down the strings on the fretboard from one end to the other...but this does nothing.
I saw a blurry video of these guys playing the song on YouTube....and it didn't appear they were using a *slide*....
What's the word you guitar afficionados? Thanks for the help.
PS - I posted this question on another Guitar Forum and got no response...so I figured I'd tap the talent I know resides here. Thanks again.
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Don't know much about guitars, but have you tried the prescription bottle over the finger slide? Might be what you need. Just an idea. Good Luck! Don
-------------------- Donald Miner ABCO Wholesale Neon 1168 Red Hill Creek Dobson, NC Posts: 842 | From: North Carolina | Registered: Apr 2006
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Sounds like distortion and chorus, flanger or phaser(they are all similar). Sounds like just fingers sliding down the fretboard. Started and stopped abruptly. There are probably some other studio tricks going like doubling it(recording it twice)or a really short delay that would make it sound "bigger". I think they were heavily into studio fun and games.
In the youtube video I watched of them doing it live, they didn't do that part. They also didn't do the slide parts in the background.
Mess around with sliding down a couple frets and then using the vibrato bar to lower the note with those effects. If I get some time over the weekend I'll play around and see what I come up with.
If you watched the same live YouTube I did...you're right - they didn't do it at the beginning but did do it in the middle of the song. Click about halfway into the song where they repeat that part and you'll see him just *quick-whip* his hand down the fretboard.
Thanks for checking it out for me.....this guitar stuff is really fun! Wish I would have gone electric years ago.
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You should go to site that peddles pedals. Listen to the sound bites for different effects. Then try to figure out what 10 or 12 pedals your favorite string stroker may be using. Remember that every effect will add something good or bad and the combinations lead to insanity.
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Wa Wa , Fuzz, Sustain, like Santo says, PEDALS, usually the tools for sounds other then normal "slide with cyl. or quick finger fret slide into next string".
Roger
-------------------- Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated 186 Combs Dr. Merlin Oregon 97532 Posts: 3020 | From: Merlin Oregon | Registered: Dec 1998
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There's a few different ways to accomplish that sound Todd. It's called a slide. You can do it with your finger or a slide made of glass or metal. I like a glass slide worn on the pinky.
I suggest you follow Eric's link above and have the guitar tab open.
Let's talk about the finger slide first. I've listened to the song a few times, and I think that's all he is doing.
Bar the 2nd, 3rd & 4th strings at the 12th fret. You can use your first finger or ring finger. I prefer my ring finger. You are playing a simplified G Chord. Strum those 3 strings and slide your finger down the neck. With practise, you will learn how to mute the first string.
Be sure to add lots of gain and distortion.
I'm just starting to mess with slide guitar, but I have a teacher that makes it look easy. I hate him!
When playing slide, you place the slide directly over the fret. Don't apply too much pressure. You don't want the strings to touch the frets. Strike those 3 strings and slide on down the neck. The hardest part is muting the unwanted strings.
BTW....don't forget that small slide from the 14th to the 15th fret. Good luck and keep practising. When I get a few minutes I'll share some of my favorite guitar resourses with you.
Wouldn't it be cool if Roger sold RT in small glass bottles we could use as slides?
That U-Tube is one addictive place. You Yanks need to do a search for David Wilcox. Not your US folk singing David Wilcox. You want our Canadian guy. He's been one of our most popular musicians for years.
I was amazed and delighted to see the videos of David on stage. Imagine Rodney Dangerfield on nitro! He ain't pretty, but he sure can male a Telecaster sing.
[ May 30, 2007, 03:28 AM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
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'reckon they could have actually been usin' a dobro in the original tune? (steel guitar?)
By the way, I've been searching for a very large poster of a guitar fret board with every fret-space marked with the note.
Anyone have one of these?? It would make a cool poster and it the 'tool' I need to memorize the board quickly as I play along to songs, to help me with playing lead . . . I probably just ought to make one if no such thing exists . . . don't steal my idea . . . remember you saw it here first . . .lol
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Thats funny S! That's how I taught myself to play... EADGBE on the bridge, or the "tuner" end of the neck.
Next is the succesion from the neck to the "body". Top string....E open string/bridge, next fret towards body F, next fret space, next fret G, next fret space, next fret A, next fret space, next fret B, next fret C, next fret space, next fret D, next fret space, next fret E...
The next string down starts at "a" & uses the same progression... start AT THE BRIDGE with an "A", fret space, B, C, space, D, Space E, & all strings progress the same throughout.
I put a piece of tape on all the "E"'s up the neck to help me lead. It works!
You'll notice the B & C are always together & the E & F are always together. Otherwise there is an open fret between letters as you go up the alphabet. a bc d ef g a bc d ef g a bc d ef g a bc d ef & so on.
Good luck! Hope that made sense?
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I show the note progression on the top string. (Top string- the string running up & down on tne left side of the neck or fret board!!) Letters in black only.
The progression also applies to the other 4 strings if you start on any "E" on any string.
Not as confusing as it seems!
Good Leading!
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-------------------- Michael R. Bendel Bendel Sign Co,. Inc. Sauk Rapids, MN Posts: 913 | From: Sauk Rapids, MN | Registered: Jul 2005
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That's pretty much IT Doug! Thanx! And only 5.95 is a good deal if'n it's laminated too . . .
I will probably use it to make a larger poster . . .
Micheal, your right, if ya know the strings you know the progressions, but somehow having the whole thing in the actual letters/numbers of the notes right across from me while playing along/learning lead-licks is just the tool I know I need to memorize the neck . . .
Here's to pickin' & grinnin'!
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Sheila, I don't know anything about guitar but had ordered a large poster from this site for piano and guitar. They look nice in frames. Don't know if this is what you may be looking for.
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That's what I was thinking Santo. But if you like it and can deal with the weight that's the important thing Brad.
Didn't I didn't I didn't I see you cryin'... ...on the way to the chiropractor.
Edited to add: Even with two necks, two sets of pickups, electronics, etc. it still couldn't weigh more than my first bass. What a brick.
Edited again to add: You could add a couple more necks like an 8 string bass(4-two string courses) and a 12 string bass(4-three sting courses (invented by Tom Peterson of Cheap Trick -I guess he needed to compete with Rick Nielsen)).
I used to have one of my guitars strung with the drone strings from a set of 12 string strings. It was fun to play with someone with a normal strung guitar.
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Okay I've over-edited that last post, so I'll start another.
You know you only need two strings if you play like Mark Sandman played. Or who needs a bassist at all, my friend Amber Valentine of Jucifer strings her guitar with bass strings on the low strings.
Then you get into flatwound vs roundwound strings on those necks. What are you using now Brad? Round on the 5 string and flat on the fretless?
quote:Originally posted by Dusty Campbell: What are you using now Brad? Round on the 5 string and flat on the fretless?
I haven't changed the strings yet, so it still has the factory rounds on both necks. But I probably will go for flats on the fretless when I change them.
I also have an 8 string Zon Legacy which replaced the Ric 8 string I used to own. I'd really like a 10 string though, and have been thinking about having my Zon Legacy five string converted into a 10. Finding a 10 string (black) bridge is the problem.
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I remember the song and I think it was probably done with a steel slide using open tuning. Open tuning is where the guitar is tuned to that the desired chord sounds when the strings are struck. Open tuning would allow the slide while maintaining the integrity of the notes.
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