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Dave Draper
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I may have posted this picture before, but we have had some discussions on another thread last week about the durability, warping, and expansion of PVC, thus making it not so good of choice for an outdoor material exposed to extreme heat conditions.

I dug this picture up, which shows the disastrous results of using PVC for a post and panel sign application.

This job lasted about 1 year, and was done by a local franchise sign shop about 3-4 years ago, whose name is withheld because they have suffered enough over this failure, and wised up since then.

I drove by the sign everyday on the way to my shop and watched it bend, then crack and finally break. That's when I took this picture.

PVC (Sintra / Komerling / Komatex / whoever)is a great material to use for certain jobs outdoors when PROPERLY prepared and SUPPORTED.

THIS IS NOT THE PROPER USE OF PCV, obviously! [Frown]

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[ April 30, 2007, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: Dave Draper ]

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Rene Giroux
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And all because ''Cargill'' can't afford a real sign.... what a shame !

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Dave Draper
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Rene,

That's another story! A story about cooporate greed and saving every nickel by down sizing budgets so the company stock can go up .02% and make their stockholders happy!

Its hard to do nice work for those types.

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Gee.. and a whopping 38 days without an accident.. do they count the sign in that? [Smile]

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Not to mention the outstanding fabrication on those PVC posts. too! Just amazing crapsmanship... er... ahhh... I mean craFTsmanship!

I see this sort of stuff everyday. Noobs and wannabe's playing in the big kid's playground without a clue.

This workingman gig is looking better all the time. Hey, what do I know?

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Jake often asks me that question too Broooce! [Rolling On The Floor]

Open the door, ...

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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Draper:
Rene,

That's another story! A story about cooporate greed and saving every nickel by down sizing budgets so the company stock can go up .02% and make their stockholders happy!

Its hard to do nice work for those types.

Dave,
Cargill is a privately owned company. If they were public I'd have invested in them years ago. [Wink]
Maybe you were thinking of another company?

[ May 02, 2007, 08:25 PM: Message edited by: Brian Snyder ]

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Brian,

Are you suggesting that privately owned corps aren't driven by the market forces? Often time describes as greed!

There's no difference between public and privately owned corporations when it comes down to the need for profit.

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I didn't suggest anything John. I clearly pointed out that Dave was wrong in characterizing Cargill as a publicly traded company.

Not that its of any relavance to this particular topic, but there certainly is a big difference between private and public corporations "when it comes down to the need for profit." For example, publicly owned companies in their need to satisfy shareholders must always worry about the next quarter's results while private companies can be long-term goal oriented.

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"38 safe days", huh?

Would that still apply if the sign chunk on the right blew out into traffic and caused an accident?

[Wink]
Rapid

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