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Lotti Prokott
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What is the best method to install a sign with no visible screws on the face of it?
I have one 2x6 for indoors and two 4x8s for outdoors to install, all made from Dibond.

I looked for an installation system to buy but seem to be unable to locate it.

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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
Pelly, Saskatchewan
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Murray MacDonald
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Hi Lotti
This subject has been visited a few times here. You can probably do a search and find all the answers. Double faced tape is an option, depending on the surface. Call me.
MUR

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Murray MacDonald
OldTime Signs
529 Third Ave S
Kenora, ON.
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Brian Stoddard
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panel clips are the way to go. Apply with VHB or Lords adhesive on the DiBond.

http://www.panelclip.com/

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Brian Stoddard
Northwest Signs

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Pete Payne

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i've used vhb with good results, but i've also had it fall right off dibond,i have found auto body foam molding tape works very well in some instances, ever try to pull moldings off a car? Pretty tough stuff, panel clips are great, i use them alot especially on thicker substrate that will hold screws

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Pete Payne
Willowlake Design/Canadian Signcrafters
Bayfield, ON

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Bill Lynch
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Panel clips are nice, and can be bonded to the panel. I like to scuff the dibond where it'll be taped or glued

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Bill Lynch
Century Sign
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Lotti Prokott
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Panel Clips are what I had in mind but couldn't remember the name.

Mur, I did a search with little success, must have used the wrong search terms or I'm blind. Nothing new. [Wink]

I'll be calling you,Pete, I need a couple other things too.
It's great to have merchants that show up here!

Thank you guys.

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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
Pelly, Saskatchewan
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EM Plastics has an extrusion system made for use with dibond. Call Bart Anderson in Winnipeg. He may be able to send you a sample.

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Steve Wright Sign & Graphics
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Ray Rheaume
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French cleats work great!

Rapid

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Ray Rheaume
Rapidfire Design
543 Brushwood Road
North Haverhill, NH 03774
rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com
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I like my paint shaken, not stirred.

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French cleats? Wasn't that what Zinédine Zidane was wearing when he head butted the Italian guy in the World Cup final?

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David Harding
A Sign of Excellence
Carrollton, TX

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Just slow down there texan...
The dude was handicapped!
He actually threw french fries in his face
before buttin'.

CrazyJack

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Jack Wills
Studio Design Works
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Nye Beach / Newport, OR

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Like this...

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Ray Rheaume
Rapidfire Design
543 Brushwood Road
North Haverhill, NH 03774
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I like my paint shaken, not stirred.

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Lotti Prokott
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Thanks, Rapid, that's a great idea and illustration.

French cleats, eh? [Big Grin]

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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
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They call'em French cleats, we call 'em Dutch hangers. If you want to remove them at any time, don't glue them.
MUR

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Murray MacDonald
OldTime Signs
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French cleats, Dutch hangers, yep... build em yourself or get the Panel Clips from Brooklyn Hardware, Portland OR 503-232-1151

I use their "King Clips" on some pretty heavy substrate. Dimensional HDU with Iron Copy and other stuff. They're aluminum extrusion and I just drill 'em and epoxy short lags into the backer on the substrate. Like Pete said, auto body moulding tape works great too.
All my best!

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Dave Shirk
Fitting Finishes Signs & Embroidery
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South Fork, CO 81154

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yes, nice visual Ray... & they can just be cut on your own table saw. They can also be almost as long as your sign & although screwing is not an option with dibond... the body moulding tape could work if the cleat was a smooth surface, like 1/2" pvc.

I need to buy a bunch of panel clips, so I followed that link & looked at suppliers... before I even noticed pete on this thread, I saw the Canadian Signcrafters was listed as a supplier. Since they were the only supplier I recognized on the list, that also supported Letterville, I decided I'd have to give them a call.

Then I read Pete's reply, & was suprised he didn't mention his company as a source, so I hope he still carries them.

Otherwise, Brooklyn Hardware sounds like an option... but I'll try Canadian Signcrafters first, (f they can sell to the US)
Phone: 1-800-663-9753

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Doug Allan
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Pete, I sent an email through the link in your post, but it bounced back. I don't know if that link is out of date, or it just didn't happen to work this time for me.

My email was as follows:

Pete,
I need to get several sets of clips to have on hand.
Can I buy them from you?
If so, how much are they?
Are they cheaper by the dozen?

Thanks,
Doug Allan
(808) 877-0688

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Doug Allan
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Pete, I also tried to send you a few e-mails the other day and they bounced back.

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Jamie Nicholson
Graphics 'n Signs by Trimline
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Their phone number is 1-800-663-9753. I'm pretty sure they carry the product as I found it listed on their website, once I started looking.

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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
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Panel clips screws and weldon construction adhesive works great indoors and outdoors.

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Len Mort
Signmaker1.com
11 Juniper Drive
Millbury, MA
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"A Good Business Sign, is A Sign of Good Business"(1957)

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Richard Flint
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Come-on Lenny,
Ya only partially helping her out!

For Panelclips - www.panelclip.com
For Weld-On Adhesive - www.rplastics.com

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Rich Flint
FLINT SIGNS
6 Holbrook Road
Oxford, Massachusetts
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Come-on Lenny,
Ya only partially helping her out!

For Panelclips - www.panelclip.com
For Weld-On Adhesive - www.rplastics.com

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Rich Flint
FLINT SIGNS
6 Holbrook Road
Oxford, Massachusetts
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