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I have been painting a fire fighting helmet and did some gold leafing to it but had a problem that after I put the size down and then the leafing it stuck to places other then where I put the sizing. I didn't touch the area's and kind of baffled as to why it happened or anyway to fix it except to repaint the entire thing. I will post a few photo's up when I get a chance to show you what happened. I have never had this happen before except for one time when I used a vinyl masking that left some residue when I pulled it up.
I did this over a waterbased acrylic that had been heatset and dried for atleast a week before I did the leafing. Heard about using a powder to make a layer to keep it from sticking where I don't want it but that wont help me on this one for now unless I do have to repaint it. Thanks for any help/advice.
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Sounds like it was still outgassing. Next time you could apply baby powder around the area before you apply size, but be careful not to get any in the size. Then the gold should not stick so much to the outside area. I have had this happen and just wiped it with mineral spirits, and the gold came off, but you have to do this right after gilding, don't let it set too long.
Hope this helps
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A raw potato wiped over works too, so the starch can dry on the surface, to stop gold sticking where it isn't wanted.
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...and Rapid Remover (used SPARINGLY with a Q-tip!) can clean up the unwanted gold spots. Love....Jill PS Why does "accidental" gold always look better than the part you meant to gild? Shines like a mirror!
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Before you repaint, try a little Old English furniture polish. It is lemon oil and it works for me. If it doesn't come off right away, let it set over night and it should come off in the morning. Getting some on the letters is no problem, it will eventually evaporate. Any spots right next to the letters should be covered with a thin card so no damage comes to the letter while scrubbing the excess gold off. Good luck.
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Well... it wouldn't come off and I have now sanded and starting over. I couldn't get all of the old leaf off but it's smooth and I will be able to cover up what is left on there. Would it cause a problem to releaf over the old stuff that I couldn't get off? I really dont want to have to completely start over unless I absolutely have to since I have so much work in this thing right now.
Someone mentioned using baby powder and I was wondering what would be a good way to apply it so it dont get onto where I want to put my sizing?
I am leary of using a potato or egg white wash over this paint as I dont know how it would react to it as it's not a urethane. Thanks again!
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Baby powder is ok but I prefer to use french chalk as it has no addatives and is finer than powder. As for not putting it where the size goes dont worry just dust the whole thing then size as normal the size absorbs the chalk and does not affect the adhesion, gild then simply dust of the chalk and any skewings. Remember though to use the chalk sparingly dont pile it on it is litteraly a dusting. I am also with John Arnott (Hi John hows Nita) in prefering egg glare and dont imagine it would harm any paint finish as you are only using the white.
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After dusting the powder on, blow it off. The purpose is only to kill any tack or body oils. I find it helpfull to dust my fingers and hands and the ball on my mahl stick also.
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Thanks for all of the help everyone! I just finished redoing the airbrushwork on the flag part and now I am going to do the goldleafing again and this time I am going to use the tips given here on some spare stuff just to be sure I get it right so I dont have to redo this again. I will post up some pics when I get the chance.
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