-------------------- Jane Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764 815-844-7024 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 4102 | From: Pontiac, IL USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Jill has it right. I've faced this one a couple of times. The last one I had to do was Chris' Auto Body.
-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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I think Jill is right. There's a rule in the style manuals, but I don't feel like looking it up. So I would do it Jane's way, because there's no dispute.
-------------------- Bruce Williams Lexington KY Posts: 945 | From: Lexington, KY, USA | Registered: Mar 1999
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"Ross's Bar" is the correct form. I know cuz I were an A+ grammar student.
Edited to add: A couple replies were added while I was making mine... but I really am quite sure that when the word is singular ending in an 's' you still add the 's to it, unless it makes it sound funny by doing so... actually "Chris's" would be the correct spelling on Mr. Crumley's sign.
Y'all had me worried, so I had to go look it up... it explains it the way I remembered quite well HERE. Hehe... just was reading through that again and notice they use "Chris's" as an example....
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-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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I am doing a cabin sign for a family named Fox and they requested "The Foxes" - I don't know if it is grammatically correct, but the customer is always right.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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Ha ha, isn't the internet fun. No wonder we are confused, or is that confuseded. While you were editing I was typing. You are Canadian Suelynn stick with the Meridith way.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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...I was an A+ grammar, reading, and spelling student... But I just guessed on that one! (the older I get the less I remember) Love....Jill
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Edited to change- Kelly, it appears it is generally accepted that either way is correct. So until I figure out who the REAL authority is, I'm not going to argue that I'm right.
However, I do know that the sign you are working on is grammatically correct.
The apostrophe is probably the most abused punctuation in the English language, in my opinion.
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For a one syllable singular noun that ends in ss possessive. Example: It is my boss's birthday today.
If a singular noun has more than one syllable and ends in s OR to use only an apostrophe after the s Example: The metropolis's citizens were very friendly during our visit. Acceptable: The metropolis' citizens were very friendly during our visit.
To form the possessive of a singular proper noun ending in ss OR to add only an apostrophe. Example: Mr. Ness's classroom is very inviting. Acceptable: Mr. Ness' classroom is very inviting.
-------------------- Jane Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764 815-844-7024 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 4102 | From: Pontiac, IL USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Hehe... Kelly, the University of Victoria website, which was one of the main ones I looked at, is a Canadian college, I believe.
Anyway, do it however you like Suelynn. To me, even if it's right either way, I prefer "Mr. Ness's" because that's how its pronounced. The later example looks like it would be "Mr. Ness classroom is very inviting"
Even if it's wrong, nobody will ever know. Even us A+ grammar students don't know what we're talking about....
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Did I mention the nuns used to beat me a lot? (or is that nuns') Love....Jill
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-------------------- Joe Crumley Norman Sign Company 2200 Research Park Blvd. Norman, OK 73069 Posts: 1428 | From: 2200 Research Park Blvd. | Registered: Sep 2001
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Suelynn..show the customer BOTH spellings and let THEM decide how they want it.
I would spell it "Ross's" but I would have the customer make the final decision and sign off on it.
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Hey, it'll be Bar Ross! if he steps outta line one more time!!
this is yore Gramma talkin', sonny!
-------------------- John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts 5668 Ewart Street, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada bigtopya@hotmail.com 604.451.0006 Posts: 2184 | From: Burnaby, British Columbia,Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5496 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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I've been studying a grammar manual for an entrance test for community collage, and it would have you do it the way the client does it. If the client is relying on you then the manual doesn't cover ss although my wife "a recent M.B.A. grad."says Ross'. I tend to agree with Jane, Ross's is best and Ross' is acceptable. Spell check doesn't like Ross's but didn't question Ross',go figure!
"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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