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Kristie Byrnes
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...So, I'm lettering a Landscape Company truck today, and there are four number 8's in the phone number, and I hate lettering the no. 8. (Maybe because it's my least favorite number) For some reason I just seem to dislike my 8's. Although no complaints from anyone else. So, as I'm painting away today, I'm thinking to myself - I wonder if any other signpainters have a particular number or letter that they dislike to paint, or just me? OH, and yesterday, a semi-truck with numerous 8's in the DOT and MC nos. Imagine that!...lol Just the musings of a signpainter.

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Kristie Byrnes
Paintbrush Graphics
6126 Big Cut Rd.
Mt. Carroll, IL 61053
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Rick Sacks
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When serving my apprenticeship, one of the regular assignments was to go around and change the assets on windows at some chains of savings and loans. These were all 1" gilded numbers and there was always several zero's...lots of 'em lined up. Each branch had at least two windows to do. Back then, we backed up our gold with a product called Sta-Zon thad dried real fast...in the brush, and was not nearly as easy to work as a varnish.

As far as a letter that I didn't like making, Q's usually were difficult to look properly balanced, and the numeral 2 often had a heavy section.

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

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Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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Randy Campbell
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8's,o's and S,s

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Randall Campbell
Randy's Graphics,
420 Fairfield N.
Hamilton Ontario Canada

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I detest painting the X. Luckily they are few and far between! Mine always look off-kilter.
Love....Jill

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Rick Sacks
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reverse S's in one stroke are my absolute favorite!

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

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Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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Curt Stenz
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Being left handed, one stroke (right reading) always came natural for me... but in reverse, even after 30 years, it is still a challenge.

When I started lettering the goal was to make hand lettering look typeset. Now the pendilum has swung as I strive to make vinyl look hand lettered.

I remember years back in SignCraft there was Bob Parsons cartoon about 'horse collar' "O's". I never really liked them at the time but now I find my "O's" have become heavier at the top. I think they actually look nicer that way.

What goes around, comes around.

Curt

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Curt Stenz Graphics
700 Squirrel Lane
Marathon, WI 54448

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John Lennig
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"what goes around comes around".... that's what was happening when i was learning to letter... kept brush going around, until the "O" or "S" got fatter and fatter, my Dad used to say, "looks like bent pipe" ...taking that "above and below the guide lines" rule way beyond nice!!

Curt, being left handed doesn't make us right! [Rolling On The Floor]

bt john

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John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts
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British Columbia, Canada
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Jon Butterworth
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I'm with Jilly on the "simple" X ! Free hand between two lines aint as easy as it looks to get perfectly even and sized.

I've found that altering your brush strokes can often fix problem letters. For example my Zeros always seemed to have a "flat" spot on the bottom right hand corner. By extending my first lefthand down stroke and sweeping up into this area then overlapping with the right hand down stroke , it cured it.

So Kristie, look at forming your eights in a different way. Check out some font styles and/or some other hand lettering styles of "8"s. They may give some ideas.

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Linda Silver Eagle
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Kristie,

I learned to do the "8's" all at once. Each stroke on the first is repeated for the others. The top stroke, the bottom stroke then the center stroke...keeping them aligned. Then you do the verticals to round out the sides. Using a pounced pattern helps.

The letter I didn't like to do is, uhm, actually, I like doing them all. I have favorites! I love the round ones. I love the ones with feeling, lots of scroll to them LOL.

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Linda Welborn
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George Perkins
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2's always gave me fits.


Curt's comments on horsecollar O's takes me back to my first job in a sign shop. I had anoher signpainter helping me fine tune my work. I was putting the crosstrokes in my G's a little too low. When I mastered that' I looked for his approval. He said "yea, that looks good, now if you'll just stop making your U's look like pulled fence steeples, you'll be OK" .

A little explanation is needed here. Folks in the country around here refer to the U shaped staples that fasten barbed wire to fence posts as "steeples". When you remove them from a post using a claw hammer, the barbed wire pulls the rounded part of the staple into somewhat of a point. Needless to say, I never made a pointy bottomed U after that.

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George Perkins
Millington,TN.
goatwell@bigriver.net

"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"

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I have less patience with "E's than other letters...they take too long to paint if you ask me.( Based on square block-like styles) Also I don't like fonts with 100%squared off serifs...time consuming.

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Jeff Ogden
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Gainesville FL, 32609

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Kristie there's not any of the letters or numbers that I actually dislike to paint, so I'm just gonna put the letters and numbers I have trouble with:

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
1234567890

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Jon Jantz
Snappysign.com
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Kent Smith
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3's and our old area code was 303 and the old local prefix is 353 or 330 or 339 for business phones sooo I had one customer who's number was 303-353-3333...needed a pattern for that one.

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Kent Smith
Smith Sign Studio
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Estes Park, CO 80517-2385
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Sheila Ferrell
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Still O'.
Mainly when lettering any kinda staight block or serifed type . . .

Always look like eggs to me . . .
I'm fine on a casual . . .

I don't obssess about it as much as much as I used to when I would turn the panel upside down and study it or get a mirror and look at it backwards trying to analyze the symmetry of it . . . lol

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Bill Wood
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The BIGGER THE BURGER, THE BETTER THE BURGER, THE BURGERS ARE BIGGER AT BURGER KING!
Practice!
Fake the numbers...they ain't but 10
Practice will get you closer to being aggrevated and driven nuts with this profession.This is what sign paintin' is all about...but you gotta love it!

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Bill Wood
Bill Wood, Sign Artist
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Winston-Salem, NC 27105-3752
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The letter "B" gives me more trouble. The 8 can have some variety, some snap, and look good. You can't "fix" a B after you've started it.

Once I learned to paint the vertical for the letter T before painting the horizontal stroke it didn't give me any more problems. Maybe I should paint the bottom loop of the B before the top loop?

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Linda Silver Eagle
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Oh Kent, that phone number is gnarly! LOL

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Linda Welborn
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The most tedious styles to me are the square-shaped letters, like microgramma or eurostyle. It's so easy to get them mis-shapen or out of balance. Even though I like the look of them at times, I try to stay away from them as much as possible.

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714 East St.
Mendenhall, MS 39114

"I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me."

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