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How come everybody moans & groans when the prices go up - but nary a peep when they come down? I paid 2.41 today for gas here in Mississippi. . . .
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Still $2.69 here...and I was happy about that till I read this topic! love....Jill
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Gas has dropped to $2.41 here in southwest Georgia too! Yahoo!! Guess we don't jump up and down when gas prices go down because we have come to realize that it will always go back up! Judy
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I did complain yesterday since I had just filled at 2.34 when I found the 2.30 a block away. Some of us are really hopeless front runners, aren't we?
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By the way, enjoy the prices while they last. I won't be surprised to see $20/gallon in the next five years. I hope I'm wrong, but I won't be a bit surprised.
We need to get serious about finding better ways to get around. Until that happens, I'm afraid that our enemies have us by the short and curlies.
Don, I tried that link. I hadda zoom out 3 times on the map to find any gas stations they list. The one they say is cheapest is shown...approximatly 5 miles away from where it ACTUALLY IS!
So, how are things back in civilization these days? Rapid
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quote:How come everybody moans & groans when the prices go up - but nary a peep when they come down?
Because it should be about $1 a gallon.... I believe I saw it at $2.39 today....
Didn't hear too much on the tv news about this...but it's on some internet sites - Massive oil field was just discovered in the Gulf of Mexico....it could supply the US with 50% of it's oil for years....I personally think we have gobs of oil....unfortunately, it has been in the hands of lunatics.
Anyway, Chevron and Exxon/Mobile will be drilling for it...that should provide some relief too.
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No... it isn't great. $2.34 a gallon is still way too high and thats why there is not a peep out of us when it comes down. $1.00 a gallon is probably too low, but with the record profits the oil companies are enjoying, anything over $1.75 a gallon is way too high.
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Can someone please explain to me - How can you pump liquid out of the ground, load it onto tankers the length of 3 football fields, ship it halfway around the world, offload it, refine it, distribute it to jobbers, they distribute to individual stations hundreds of miles inland, advertise it, pay state, Federal & local taxes on it, & still sell it for less than a gallon of Milk or Bottled Water? Please enlighten me. . . .
-------------------- Carl Wood Olive Branch, Ms Posts: 1392 | From: Olive Branch,MS USA | Registered: Nov 1999
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You can pay well over $2 a LITRE in some outback parts of Australia- just ask any of the 'grey nomads' mobile-homing it around the country- $2.50 a gallon here would be lovely!
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How can they buy land, seeds, irrigation equipment, harvesting equipment, milling equipment, ovens, mixers, packaging equipment, pay for soil analysis, disease control, quality control, pay employees, transportation through all these phases, taxes etc. and all the other stuff I'm missing and still sell the huge varieties of bread (each one takes a different process some have 9 different grains) for a buck a loaf?
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Here's an examble of what I was alluding to. Without a national mindset towards the coolness of riding on something like this, (a vehicle requiring ZERO gallons of petrol to go anywhere), we will sooner or later be shyt outta luck.
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I've been wanting to build a small electric commuter car since seeing this beast: http://www.wrightspeed.com - an electric car that goes 0-60 in 2.5 seconds - the only vehicle on the planet that can out-accelerate it is a 1.2 million dollar Bugati Veyron.
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By the way, enjoy the prices while they last. I won't be surprised to see $20/gallon in the next five years. I hope I'm wrong, but I won't be a bit surprised. HOGWASH....you listen to much to political scare tactics. what they are really saying ....be happy its only $3.00 a gal, and dont make any waves or we will take it up to $20 a gal. by the time its gets that expensive...someother fule sorce will be in use and they sure dont want that!!! ALSO GAS PRICES ARE COMIN DOWN .....ELECTION DAY IS NOV 7!!!!!! how convinient!!!! AND THIS A 1ST...TODD AND I THINK ALIKE!!!!
Because it should be about $1 a gallon.... I believe I saw it at $2.39 today....
Didn't hear too much on the tv news about this...but it's on some internet sites - Massive oil field was just discovered in the Gulf of Mexico....it could supply the US with 50% of it's oil for years....I personally think we have gobs of oil....unfortunately, it has been in the hands of lunatics.....ill 2nd that!!!!! ALSO...the oil co. never said anything about all that oil in the gulf....UNTILL THE RUSSIANS, VENESULANS AND CUBANS WAS GONA START TAKING IT!!!!HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM(it was there all these years AND THEY KNEW IT)
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Let's see.....why don't people celebrate when the price comes down? Perhaps because it has been planned out in advance? No, not a conspiracy, just my opinion.
Before the first run up to $3/gal I was paying roughly $1.60/gal. Prices spike up to $3/gal then settle back to just under $2/gal for about 6-8 months and everyone breathes again (How wonderful it is to not still be paying $3/gal!). The second run up happens (to about $3.30/gal this time) followed by a slow drift back down to $2.40/gal (and we all once again breathe). So, now we are paying at least $.90/gal more than two years ago (about a 45% increase) and we are happy about it?!? Sorry, not me!
Personally, I'm shopping for a 50-60 mpg bike or some other unique form of transport.
Mark
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Now don't get me wrong but as a nation of the USA that really doesn't produces much of its own oil... you complain. It seems that your pricing is in the low areas around the world.
Now for my nation with the second biggest cap on oil...we have to pay a premium price across our country? Someone tell me how this works!
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If it was just gas prices I would be happy, but we live in a petro dollar age where the price of everything is linked to oil pricing on the way up ( somehow they forget to go back down. Have you looked at your freight bills lately? Paint price increases? Vinyl Costs how about thinner? ETC ETC ETC. We need to conserve and innovate. Bill
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As for inflation, the annual average rate in 2000 was 3.38%. In 2005, the annual average rate was 3.39% in spite of the spike in oil prices after Katrina.
So far this year, we have averaged 3.87% for inflation. Roughly a .5% jump over last year.
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Dusty! Perfect response to Carl's production/shipment/price question!
I'm all for alternative fuel sources....I think it's a great idea.....but to even think the Segway is cheap or a viable alternative to the automobile is...well...just not practicle.
Don, you've lived in Indiana. It would get pretty cold driving one of those to work....and how about hauling your luggage to the airport? Or the kids to the dentist....Ooops - it looks like it's going to rain/hail/snow today....these things probably don't have too much traction in 8 inches of snow.
LOL...ok, I'm just having a little fun with this...that really is pretty slick - looking.
The Gulf of Mexico find is purported to have Billions of barrels of oil - - one of the largest finds ever. I read the other day where they estimate gas will be down closer to the $2 gallon mark by Thanksgiving - as there is an oversupply of oil now....and tensions are lessening in regards to Iran - why? I don't know...Iran is going to be a big problem.
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With all due respect - it's just a little more complex to refine a gallon of gasoline than to bake a loaf of bread - I can bake a loaf of bread here in my oven. Don't forget those pesky little environmental regulations for petrochemicals, not to mention the government price supports for the wheat growers, etc., etc. nowhere near a valid comparison. Try again.
-------------------- Carl Wood Olive Branch, Ms Posts: 1392 | From: Olive Branch,MS USA | Registered: Nov 1999
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Yeah, but think about the equipment, repairs, logistics, etc involved in farming and getting these ingredients to the manufacturers who then, in turn, have equipment, repairs, logistics, etc in turning them into a final product.
I think it's a great comparison.
Don't forget - oil is being shipped in mass quantities in a barge....you're talking millions of gallons of crude at a time. That is fairly economical.
It's not much different than any other mass produced product.
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i dont give a damn if its $1 PER GALLON OR $7 PER GALLON WE GOT TO HAVE IT, WERE GONNA PAY FOR IT. I add it back onto the business and done is done. i do however feel for low income working class and the elderly that dont need this on them
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After they are in place, those oil wells just sit there spouting barrels of oil with a lot less effort than a farmer growing wheat. If you don't believe me, ask any farmer if he'd give up a few acres of his land to put an oil well on it.
I'm not worrying about the oil companies. They are making quad-zillions of dollars and it is massive price-gouging. Just because everyone needs it doesn't make it okay to charge out the ying-yang for it.
We gotta have water to live. If our water supply companies had that same mentality, you would be paying a $1000 a month for your house water bill.
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I put Alternative fuel in the same catagory as Alternative partners, I don't want any part of it for an ol'Guy like me. As far as the gas price difference from the U.S.A. to Canada or European countries, its always been that way. In the 60's we were paying .30 cents and other countries 2 bucks, its all relevent. I can't see using alterntive fuel at Nascar or other auto sports, can you? So why should I put an electric motor in my 64 just to drive it.
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Joey I saw either CART or the IRL is switching to 100% ethanol next year instead of the 5% they are now using. As far as the farmers vs. oil companys go I pretty sure that there isn't any farmers making 10's of billions in profits each quarter.
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Carl, I'm just saying they've looked at the numbers and know how much it costs to produce and make a profit.
I think at the +/-$10,000,000,000.00 dollar every 3 month profit they are making, they could lower the price some. That's just Exxon's profit, not all the oil companies together. And that's profit, after all the expenses are paid.
Joey, I wouldn't want a retrofitted hot rod, but an off the shelf 0-60 in 2.5, I'll buy. I'd still love the raw inefficient power and roar of a big block though.
quote:it was there all these years AND THEY KNEW IT)
Yes, they knew it,, We all knew it.. "They" just didn't have the technology to drill in 7,000 ft. of water and then drill another 20,000 into the bedrock.. Lets find out how long it took them to drill this test well,, Yes they knew it was there it wasn't until recent times that they could peer under the salt domes using new math algorythms to be sure something is there.
Now you know where al lthose profits went. Several billion went into drilling this and a few other deep atwer wells.
They also know there are pockets of oil under the rockies "they" can't get to,, yet...
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