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I tried several brands of peanut butter on canadian, pumpernicle, rye, wheat and white bread, all with the same results. After toasting, the PB liquified and easily oozed off of the surface. I was thinking adding chunky style might help so I caled the manufacturers.
I spoke with the folks at Skippy and they said it should work okay, but Peter Pan hung up on me.
Peter Pan sucks. Rapid
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Well I'm trying to get tech support for a box of nails that I can't get to work. I've emailed, called written letters to no avail. There are no instructions on the box.
How can they make a product and not offer support?
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Dusty- make sure you have the proper nail for the side you are attaching- they come in lefts and rights, you know! Cat
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Dusty, you may have a southern hemisphere box- they don't work that way round up where you are.
edited to add a bit of nose grease, hair grease, or peanut butter oil helps reduce friction too.
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Dusty, that's Finnish nails are OK- for a moment, I thought you were using finger nails to do the job.
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Dusty, The plastic self adhesive kind work best if you put the polish on first and complete any airbrush designs before you attach them. Cat is correct, they are handed. In your case, I would suggest that you keep your nail use as private as is possible. Especially from your wife/girlfriend...
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Put some yellow one shot in the liquid nails and you won't know the difference. Might even improve the taste. Probably Jason_d should try it to cure his ailment too ... no more loose movements.
As for Dusty's sore thumbs ... try pushing the nails in pointy end first!
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Dusty, did you by any chance forget to register the nails? They won't work until you do. Were they a pirated ebay cheapo set, or did they come with a legitimate donger?
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Ray Peter Pan has known issues with PBv1.2 you need to upgrade to the PBv2.5 and I believe you will see the major improvements they have made when warming.
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Ray, let me just say that I am the all knowing peanut butter expert and all of you put together couldnt pssibly match my knowlege on this subject... that being said, I think your doing it wrong, wait I KNOW your doing it wrong! first off, no bread is acceptable but white bread, white is superior to all others. Secondly, you need to apply the PB after the bread is toasted, not before and apply is dry, any jelly or fluff should be applied to the opposing slice. BTW if you still have problems wit Skippy and Peter Pan, the makers of JIF have a tech support and they have been very helpful in the past contact: jpnutta@jif.com
Dusty as for your nail issue... I usually don't respond to thread hijackers, so i only got 1 word for you...screw!
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Ray, the same thing happened to me also. I called Peter Pan (after doing an exhaustive research on the internet) and they brushed me off quite curtly and said "Call Skippy". I thought that was really strange. My guess is that they don't do any research and want the market to tell them what works and what doesn't. I suspect that they use the Food Network shows as their test bed of sorts; they donate tons of peanut butter to the chefs and cooks on the program in exchange for feedback and suggestions on their product. I guess you know that peanut butter is not the same as it was 20 years ago; the government made them remove the polysodiumbenzodildolube and it just will not stand up to a toaster anymore.
I called Joey Madden and he only made me feel like a total idiot. I've admired his expertise in the field of peanut butter research since I was in three corner pants. I think he owes me an appology. I then called Curtis Hammond and he emailed me a friggin' 14 page letter, most of it pretty scathing (he owes me an appology too), so I moved on again. I was referred to another person and he turned out to be an undercover RCMP operating in deep cover in Atlanta. Long story short, when I found out who he was, I was sure I had been set up by the Canadian SPI (Sign Police International). We were standing there, facing each other; the tension was like a fiddle string. He reached into his coat pocket for what I was sure was a smuggled pistol so I grabbed my pistol and shot him in the arm only to find that he was only reaching for a photo. A photo of what you ask? You're not going to believe this but it was a picture of Shania Twain kissing Steven Deveaux! Turns out he was looking for Shania who has been using her music act as a ruse for smuggling cuban cigars into our country. I feel your pain Ray but I have no advice for you bud.
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Ken, it's always gots to be the WHITE bread.. WHITE bread... WHITE bread.. see that's what's wrong with the world cuz it's all about the WHITE bread.. now since I do like whole wheat bread I think you are unfairly prejudiced bordering on in-bread racism against any bread but white bread. I heard George Bush hates wheat bread and used pavement packers to smash every loaf that was donated to Hurricane Katrina... I'm tempted to call the NAAWB (Nat. Ass. of Wheat Bread) and report you.
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Personally, I tired of all the bread-biting and jam stabbing going on in here lately....can't we just all eat wheat? Does it really make a difference in 50 years if it was white or wheat? Smoothy or chunky? Some of my best friends eat white, does that make me breadenominational? Think not!!! Now maybe some ppl. just can't get wheat because their area is governed by white bread lobbyists and everyone knows about deep pockets of bread lobby, heheh, almost as strong as that of smoothy crowd.....of course, they have an uphill battle coming from the chunky congregation, if it's not laden, it's not madn' this country.....probably being held captive at gunpoint, now that they own one... Anyway you cretins, it's about the taste and if it's running off on the floor, that can't taste that good unless taste is acquired from years of living in or around Boston, where everyone knows, the creme pie came from, some still there...lickn' good......and you thought sidewalk art came from our history......
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Man, this peanut Butter thing is getting old fast. I'm sure there have been 20 other threads on this subject in the last month alone...
Dont blame the PB, read the product instructions. Most failures are due to inproper surface prep, this case is no diferent.
PB has a high surface tension, even when heated, hence it's very limited penetration capabilities, whether on regular or toasted bread. Dont put to much on at once either. Several light 'mist' coats are better than one full wet coat. Surface prep on toast? Place warm toast on plate, with spoon or butter knife depress the bread up to but not including the outside 1/2" (crust). This dish shape should be sufficient to hold back the liquified PB from spilling over the edge.
On another note, ever thought about using a catalist to 'set' the PB before consumtion? Chocolate shavings generously placed over the entire PB surface (after toasting) severly retards the flow-out characteristics, all the while enhancing the flavour to boot.
The commercial guys have come up with another method altogether, although frowned upon by the distributors. Spread PB on unadulterated bread, place on baking sheet, and place under a broiler in the oven. Remove when PB starts to 'brown up' under the intense heat. Wait one minute before consuming. This last step is most important, as hot PB sticking to the roof of ones mouth can leave a lasting impression.
Personnaly, I use Skippy Smooth, we buy it in six packs(the big jars). Skinning has never been a problem, we use a lot of it around here. No lead, coverage is decent, limited range of colours.
PB on brothers...
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Darling please . . . if you simply can NOT make it homemade yourself . . . (and really, who HERE has THAT kind of time?)
. . .Buy the 'all-natural' kind.
Slightly more expensive, a little dryer, and does require some stirring to blend the er'l back into the solid part, but hey, consider the satisfactory and content mind-set you recieve from the healthy benefits, knowing the item contains more of the 'real' and less of the un-needed phake additives ingested into the precious one-and-only body you'll ever have. . . Obviously, well-worth the extra pennies and moments spent . . .
or were you just playin' about PB?? Were you just casually contemplating PB as an experssion of your artistic mentality?? (which as we all know is a pure and sanctioned form of insanity)
In case you were just playin' . . . here's a lil' ditty-song from Frog-Man Henry:
~~~~I like bread an' buttah' ~~~~I like toas' an' jam . . . . . . . . .
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heeheehee! makes MY day to follow this yarn!
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there's a food going around thats a sticky, sticky goo...
It tastes real good but its so hard to chew...
all my friends say that they dig it the most...
early in the morning when the spread it on their toast...
{chorus} I like peanut butter, creamy peanut butter, chucky peanut butter too...
well, I went to the white house and what did I eat....
I took a big bite and it stuck to my teeth...
everyone is looking like they got the mumps...
eating peanut butter in great big hunps...
peanut, peanut butter....
{repeat chorus) I like peanut butter, creamy peanut butter, chucky peanut butter too....
.......aaaaaah NUTS!
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I think you are using the improper toasting mechanism entirely along with the wrong bread.
Back when I was a wee lad my grandfather took me to a PB& J meet up in the Yukon territory. I think it was called a Rondevous back then, anyhow the guys, gals, kids, indians, French, you name it they all were there using forked sticks on either side of the "Sourdough" bread and toasting over the campfire. Earlier in the day they mashed up peanuts in a mortar and pestle until they had a fine paste. Only when the bread had a light golden brown hue did they apply the peanutbutter paste.
I tell ya we need to pass these secrets down to the young folk or it may become a lost art....
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From what I hear, Apple nails have none of the above problems, ever.
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Toasting peanut butter voids the warranty, it's stated right there on the jar!
You might need some Rapid Prep if the peanut butter keeps sliding off your bread, it's surely a surface prep problem.
If that doesn't help, you might need to spray the bread with a mixture of clear One Shot UV and mineral spirits to "rejuvenate" the surface so it will more readily accept your mashed legume spread.
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FYI...LEGUME...A legume is a simple dry fruit which develops from a simple carpel and usually dehisces (opens along a seam) on two sides. A common name for this type of fruit is a "pod", although pod is also applied to a few other fruit types. Well-known plants that bear legume fruits include alfalfa, clover, peas, beans, lupins and peanuts. A peanut is not a nut in the botanical sense; a peanut is an indehiscent legume, that is, one whose pod does not split open on its own.
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ok Kimmy, don't smoke it all before i get home
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I went to a meet many years back. We called them "Toasthead Meets" And yes, sourdough was the prefered canvas for accurate PB&J distribution.
You're right, it is a dying art what with all the premade freezer stuff, national chain drive thru's etc. Kinda like that silly paint / vinyl war the sign people continue to have
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