I have been doing vinyl lettering on boats with good success for awhile. My last job, however, was complicated by the fact that the condition of the paint on the boat was poor. The vinyl stuck to the paint, but the paint separated from the boat.
Yes, they should have done a better job of painting the boat in the first place, but that's not my issue.
Anyway, I have several ends of letters that are not sticking down, (since there are bits of paint on the adhesive that I can't completely remove. I'm hoping not to have to pull off and redo.
I'm wondering if there's some kind of glue that might work well to stick down these letter edges. Again it's on an older aluminum boat in Juneau, AK.
If you have an idea I'd welcome it.
Thanks!
Jennifer
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Nothing I'd reccomend. Perhaps hand trimming the latters to eliminate the "cling ons" But, you're right, it is not your problem, it is a paint adhesion issue. To do it right, I'd remove the letters, and ask them to repair the paint beneath your letters. Could'nt hurt.
At first I thought you were talking about vinyl lifting from the surface. That would be a prep/cleaning problem.
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Only thing that I can think of to fix the "boat owner's" problem would be contact cement applied with a Q-Tip.
It should stick the paint on the back of the vinyl to the aluminum.
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Hiya Jennifer, A sealit pen should work well enough for you to collect a check. It's basically 1 shot clear in a handy applicator pen. It's used for sealing the edges of graphics. I would assume that regular clear from a can would work too It's available through any sign suppliers that would sell Signgold.
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You could go the routes above. But, it may be for naught. Chances are as the vinyl ages and shrinks it'll pull the paint from the surface anyway, and you'll wind up with the entire letter falling off. Show the boat owner, explain the problem, and offer to re-do the boat when he/she gets the transom repainted properly.
Rick
-------------------- Rick Tam Arte Design Studio Downingtown, PA milne2@msn.com Posts: 278 | From: Downingtown, PA | Registered: Apr 2004
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bad preperation is why paint seperates, I wouldn't take on jobs that were done by frickin amatures. You can tell from the get-go just by looking at the job. If you are that hardup for work at least find something where you can't be blamed
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yep your asking for trouble if you try to fudge it, trust me I know...
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifer Craig: Yes, they should have done a better job of painting the boat in the first place, but that's not my issue.
Sounds to me like it's not only your issue, it's THE issue. If you think it's not your issue, why are you worrying about it.
First of all, I wouldn't even begin to apply the vinyl unless the customer was aware of this problem and gave me the go ahead. I wouldn't give a warranty of any kind. If I found out the problem after starting the job, I would stop everything and make the customer aware of it. If you make it your responsibility to stick down those little edges, who will be responsible for the ones that "unstick" in a week or two?
You might be able to use denatured alcohol to clean the paint off the adhesive, but I wouldn't count on it.
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Thank You all for your help on this. I WILL pass on this advice to the boat owner. This is a usually very good client who's acquired this boat and is (very quickly) trying to make a silk purse out of a cow's ear. I want to bring this job to a good conclusion in order to keep a customer who's been very good to me in the past. You're Kind to take the time to help! Thanks again,
Jennifer P.S. And yes, I get the diet thing ALL THE TIME. Maybe I should specialize in very narrow signs.
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