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Took my daughter to the theatre the other night to watch Superman Returns.
Cost me $8.50 a ticket...and concessions another $20....so had roughly $37+ into the evening not counting gas.
We walk into the theatre it was playing in with our goodies and discover we are the only 2 people in that particular movie theatre (it's a Celebration Cinema and has like 20 theatres in the building).
We are delighted thinking we have a private screening with no interruptions...and take a seat midway up the stadium seating - very cushy, comfortable seats.
Well, as the previews start about 5 white folks come in and sit at the bottom....then, 4 young black teens (2 girls/2 boys) come in and go all the way to the top and sit above us.
Does race matter? No...just want to set the visual scene here - - mental picture.
So we're enjoying the movie....about halfway through I hear a loud "snap" and look behind me to see/hear the black teens laughing loudly and messing with a seatback that was obviously broke/damaged.
I ignored it and thought the seat was probably defective - or perhaps they broke it...but then, they started yak-ing fairly loudly, laughing etc.
I turn around and see one boy walking back and forth along the isles between the seat talking on their cell phones (the pre movie cinema ad went to great lengths to tell patrons to turn off their cell phones and be quiet.)
The other boy is beginning to slide on his butt down the rail of the stadium seating section stairs - and then walks back up to the top.
I had enough.
I screamed across the theatre..."HEEEEEYYYYY! KNOCK IT OFF!"
They ignored me and kept laughing and blabbing amongst themselves.
I jumped up (much to my daughters dismay) and bolted up to the top.
I got in their face and yelled, "TURN YOUR PHONES OFF NOW AND SHUT UP!"
They shut off their phones. I then said, "You guys quit making noise and knock it off or your out of here."
Then they both started laughing hysterically as I turned away.
I came back and said, "That's it - you guys are outa here - you'll see!"
Then, I walk out. As I'm leaving the theatre through a tunnel/isle just under where they're seating I look up (defensively) and sure enough one of those punks was hanging over the railing looking at me. I thought he might spit on me as I was walking out. I stared him down as I was leaving thinking if he hawked one up on my head there'd be a funeral the next day.
I get a manager and tell him what's going on and tell them to bounce them out or give me a refund.
He get's a security guard and comes into the theatre and pulls them out. I was pleased.
But then they come back in...and go sit up at the top....obviously they just got a warning. They didn't make any more noise, but they were a distraction as they kept walking around up above...and I kept wondering if they'd sneak up behind me and knife me or something while I was engrossed in the movie...anyway, the point being I missed part of the movie and then the rest I couldn't concentrate because I was ****ed they let them come back and wondered what they might pull next.
After the movie, I figured I'd had enough...I went up to their main desk and got the manager. I told him I wanted a refund for the movie...He tried to tell me they always warn people before bouncing them...but I said, "Listen, if you have troublemakers you should get rid of them immediately out of respect for the rest of your patrons...I paid a lot of money for what I thought was a nice, relaxing evening out with my daughter and the movie was ruined because of them. I didn't enjoy my viewing experience....I want a refund."
He looked ****ed but came back with two free movie passes.
I'm just amazed at the lack of respect to elders that some kids show these days. I reached my breaking point and decided if I don't get the service that I expect - and give others - then I'm not paying.
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Good rant Todd. It is that one word, "respect". Severely lacking in today's world, unfortunately.
-------------------- Bill Modzel Mod-Zel screen Printing Traverse city, MI modzel@sbcglobal.net Posts: 1357 | From: Traverse City, MI | Registered: Nov 1998
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There is a sense of entitlement out there that disheartens and unnerves me.
And like Bill says, a lack of respect and consideration.
I do think parents need to pull the reigns alittle tighter, and that people need to require more of others, and themselves in their day to day conduct.
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Don't get me started on "kids today". The problem is half the adults are just as bad. Where do they get their role models? Watching these reality shows on tv? Let's see what a jerk we can act like to get attention!
Manners? Virtually non-existant.It takes time and effort to raise well-behaved children. Most parents are too busy to even put down the remote or cell phone or computer mouse these days to teach their children how to act in public.
One of my daughter's favorite shows is SUPERNANNY. Why? Because she says it makes her look better. LOL It's not that the kids are so bad on these shows, the parent can't be bothered to take the time to discipline them. Once the parents figure out that you have to teach kids how to behave properly, voila! - the kid starts behaving. Funny thing about that!
Similar but seperate rant...when did kids start calling grownups by their first name????? Unless I say otherwise and you're over 5' tall, my name is Mrs. Purcell.
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I like that you called them on their blatant disrespect and got the management involved. I'm sure theatres have their rules, but "a warning" just doesn't seem to be enough and it doesn't look like it did much good. It's sad that there are so many kids running around acting like this! AND scary! I MIGHT have done what you did with the managment, but I don't think I would have confronted the kids. I would have been scared they would have lashed out at me or my family. Now days, you have to be careful!
-------------------- Jane Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764 815-844-7024 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 4102 | From: Pontiac, IL USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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No offense but why did you try to deal with it yourself instead of just going to the manager and lodging a complaint? You were very lucky that you just had to worry about them knifing you and they actually didn't. Black, white or green remember that teenagers are a group that haven't really got their full senses yet. Particularly when you had your little girl with you. I think you should rethink your strategy next time. It's not worth it. Again, no offense. Just something to think about.
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Ok, just for another point of view (and don't throw anything at me), even though they started it...you didn't exactly treat them with respect either, did you?
The point is this, as soon as you scream at somebody (justified or not) you will not get cooperation in return. It's not that I don't understand how they made you feel, or that I want to excuse the teens' behaviour, they were very rude.
Years ago, I would have reacted as you did, but today I would walk up to them and calmly explain how they make me feel and ask them to please let me enjoy the movie. I would have made sure I look them in the eyes as I talk, even slightly touch one's arm maybe. It may not have helped, but then again, there are very surprising reactions from teenager when they are treated respectfully, deserved or not. Being yelled at is probably what they get from every side all day long anyway. We, as the adults, have to demonstrate to them how people treat each other in a civilised manner. How else will they know?
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Kimberly, I had a real eye-opener when my friend and her 9 yr. old daughter were here.
She is not taking the effort to parent. I was more annoyed with my friend than her daughter! Absolutely no back bone, and teaching her all the wrong kind of lessons. I became the main parent the week they were here. (folks out in public actually thought she was my child! hahhaa)
I set boundaries, and was quite alot harder on her than her mum. Ironically, she absolutely adored me.
Kids actually WANT boundaries and dicipline. In they're eyes, that tranlates to being a very important form of LOVE and caring.
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Todd, I don't understand why you had to point out that the good kids down front were white and the bad kids in the back were black? Not to mention the uptight guy in the middle with his embarassed daughter, he was white too.
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I ask my elf the same question. Why do we have "Black Entertainment Television" and a "Congressional Black Caucus"? Why does Bill Cosby find it necessary to specifically address "black families" concerning the raising of their children?
Why is it necessary for anyone to mention color at all? And if nationally known organizations and a famous comedian can do it, why call Todd on it? (just scratching my head)
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It is a racial thing. . . they are disrespectfull
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Just out of curiosity, when George Jefferson referred to Tom Willis as "honky", why did white people laugh instead of rioting in the streets with demands that CBS cancel the show?
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I too am curious as to why the point of making a distinction between the two groups...in my world, life is quite simple if looked at from the perspective of you are part of the problem or the solution...to point out race is nothing short of racist and in my opinion, that makes you part of the problem, not the solution and all efforts on your part to admonish youth of today, went out the window and will be ignored as your entire rant has a racial flair to it and most ppl. today really want to get away from that thinking as it's dangerous and not productive to a healthy tomorrow.....to become the solution, the path to the manager should have been taken first, then if met w/results unfavorable to you, then demand a refund and leave, noting managements lack of action and simply find another theatre to frequent, can't imagine impact upon your children, results of that night will linger in their heads for a long time to come, trust me, kids know.........
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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Black or white, disrespect comes in all colors. The story probably would have been better accepted here without the notation of the race, Todd, but I still think you had a right to complain to the theatre about the disturbance. I just don't think I would have confronted the kids, no matter WHAT color they were!
-------------------- Jane Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, Il. 61764 815-844-7024 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 4102 | From: Pontiac, IL USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Hey, a lot of kids are disrespectful these days and it has nothing to do with color. I would have handled the situation a lot differently though. First, I am not the kids’ keeper, nor do I want to be. So, there's no reason for me to address the kids. They obviously thought they were doing nothing wrong. Second, since when am I responsible for the actions of strangers in a commercial establishment? If the establishment, doesn’t meet the standards I would expect I leave. If I paid in advance for a service, I would demand and get a refund. Then I would follow up with a nice letter to the corporate office. Back to the kids, unfortunately, children aren't what they used to be and I don't blame the kids too much From what I see, most kids are raising themselves with no proper supervision because their parents are too busy working to keep up with the Jones. And don’t get me going on teachers or other adult figures, because most of them are about as useful as boobs on a bullfrog. The problem starts with what I see in the younger generations of parents and, sorry ladies, it's mainly the moms. Kids who weren't raised properly to begin with are now getting married because all friends are. Next, the newlyweds go out buy the new house and cars, because their friends are. Then they are they're popping out babies like candy from a Pez dispenser, because their friends are. Are you seeing a pattern yet? Then, since the parents are never home, they buy their kids affection with cool toys like video games that kill people and ipods, computers and cable TV where these actions are considered normal and acceptable. After a few years with this starter marriage the divorce kicks in and the children of the broken marriage are put into daycare. This is where they are raised by incompetents that get paid minimum wage, or, even worse, the grandparents who screwed up with their own kids! I could go on for a lot longer, but I’ve already wasted enough time and space here on a non sign related topic. And yes, I know that all kids and parents are bad. It just that they’re more obvious
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-------------------- a.k.a. Brian Born www.CheckersCustom.com Harrisburg, Pa Work Smart, Play Hard Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998
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Hey todd you were packing weren't you? lol so why were you wondering if they were gonna knife you? just pull out that ole hand gun and fill em full of lead dem dirty rats
That'll teach em
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Seems the general consensus here is to be nice and things will be okay. Not in the world today. I would have did the same thing Todd did. If you pay your money to have a good evening with your kid, why allow some punk teen to ruin it, just because. Its called respect. If they arent getting taught that at home, it aint my job to teach them in the movie theatre, except in the way Todd did. Granted, it might have been dangerous, but his description of them laughing at him showed they had no respect at all, and should be treated accordingly. We have our own children to teach proper manners and respect to. WHy take up everyone elses? My son is 15, and I can guarantee you that he would never do anything remotely like that, because I taught him better! Teens are only young adults, and should be dealt with accordingly. Most of the high crime areas are crimes done by teens. The same thing happened to me a few years ago, in a theatre, and this kid, who was about 15, was being a pure ass. Shouting, stomping his feet, etc. Then he decided he was gonna throw some ice. Well, guess what. He threw a piece at me. I walked over to where he was sitting, sat my ass right down next to him, and told him dont he dare get up. He didnt. We both then got to see the movie with no interruptions. On the way out, I told the manager about it and told him how i handled it. He just looked at me and okay. Sometimes the situation calls for a more direct approach and one with a little flavor.
-------------------- Maker of fine signs and other creative stuff. Located at 109 N. Cumberland ave. Harlan, Ky. 40831 606-837-0242 Posts: 4172 | From: Ages-Brookside, Ky. Up the Holler... | Registered: Jul 1999
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Well, ok...let's get this squared away from my perspective.
My main focus on the rant as far as laying out the color of the patrons probably had some underlying racial feelings....I'd be a liar to say otherwise.
I do not feel racial hatred or bigotry towards respectful minorities. I do feel the same hostility towards "white trash." So I think I'm fair in my assessment toward bad behavior regardless color.
I have my feelings on who causes most of the problems in society...and can back it up statistically with Government Data...but am not here to pick a race fight.
However, I really, mainly intended to sort of create a motion picture in the readers head as to the turn of events...trying to be descriptive and create a visual like you might get when reading any story; "The sun's rays infused a glowing amber tan upon Superman's Kryptonian face." That kind of thing - just trying to create an accurate visual accounting.
I picture things visually, and detail is important in my world.
I know my photo makes me look a buff 23 years old (ha! I wish ) but I'm 45....my daughter is 20. Not that it makes a difference...but I get the impression that some might have thought I created a ruckus in front of a small child.
Ok...so hopefully you understand me. I've tried to be honest here...now let's get beyond the race thing and to the behavior.
I believe in assessing the situation and acting accordingly. In this case, I saw disrespectful, destructive, and ill-manered kids disrupting a handful of people's cherished entertainment time.
I hollered "Hey, Knockit off" once from my seat. They were about 12 or so rows up past us and way off to one side in a corner...They had to be pretty loud to get my attention in the first place.
I don't know what to say...I'm just not a "time out" Dr. Phil kind of guy.
I felt that my size and age might make an impression on them by directly confronting the misbehavior at hand.
Had they been big 6'5" gangsta dressed guys I would have taken a different tact. It would have been foolish, and possibly painful, to confront that scenario in the same manner.
I truly felt that they needed to know there were other "real" human beings in the theatre beyond themselves...and that the rest of us were not insignificant background, there for their abuse and amusement.
Sometimes the gargoyle on the building makes more of an impact when it comes to life.
I felt the behavior demanded more than touchy-feely...it needed stern admonition.
The thing that made me the most furious is that as I turned around to go back to my seat...they busted out in unrestrained laughter. Total disrespect.
I am 100% with Kimberly's assessment on today's youth.
I wasn't a perfect angel as a kid...but I can assure you this; if an adult spoke to me, I was polite, and headed their advice, warnings, whatever. I wouldn't have dared laugh in their face or argued with them. I just wasn't brought up that way.
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Similar thing happened with my buddy recently. At the theatre with his wife...pretty crowded though. He's watching a flick and begins to become irritated at hearing a bunch of "white" honkie kids blabbing and distracting everyone.
He kept his cool till they started lobbing Sugar Babies off his head. He went unglued and leaped over 4 rows behind him and Yelled, "you guys shut the F--- up and quit throwing things, you understand?! If you bounce one more piece of candy off me I'm coming up here and beating the F--- out of you."
And this guy is usual pretty mellow and doesn't cuss much. Everyone has their breaking point...and being treated disrespectfully when you're minding your own business is a good way to snap.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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I probably would have done the same thing as Todd, depending on what kind of a "female mood" I was in! Lol!
I don't think Todd meaned to sound racial about it. I have no problem at all with black people, & have met some that were so much nicer than some white people are. But I do have to say that I have spent most of my time, my whole life, with nothing but white people. I am used to them, & if I were in the theater that night, I may have percieved the black kids as different to me.
I would have done the same with a group of hispanic kids, or oriental kids....see, they are the same as me in some ways, but YES, they are different than me also in other ways! And I do not say that in an insulting manner, so don't any of you say that!
I just don't think Todd meant to be prejudiced when he said what he did. And I am sure if the white kids would have acted that way, like many DO, he would have reacted the same way.
You have guts Todd, I know I might have said something to them, but I would have been afraid to get in their faces! I guess the best thing is to tell the manager & let them deal with it.
Sonny~honkies!!!!
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Todd, you took free movie passes to another movie. That's not a refund. You're still having to patronize a movie theater with management that didn't correc the problem.
I was at the movies with a couple fo friends and this little high school air head in front of us kept answering her cell phone. After the third or fourth call the guy next to me reaches forward and plucks the phone out of her hand, tells the person on the phone she'll call him back and turned the phone off.
The look on the girls face was priceless but the rest of the theater was laughing hysterically. She apologized after the movie, got her phone and the first phone call she made was to tell somebody about this "old asshole" in the movie theater.
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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And when has "snapping" solved anything? Your example,Todd,just makes me shake my head.
It's a universal law that you get what you give. In the teens' case, they were disrespectful, so they got treated with disrespect which they returned, etc. etc.. But don't you see that unless someone deliberately interrupts the ping-pong effect of violence (which includes yelling, name calling, cussing and threatening) you will never solve the problem, only put a damper on it before it explodes? Oooh, I could get so political here, but I better shut up.
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This is why I rent movies off the satalite.
Good for you Todd, I'd done the same thing. Problem being if they started laughing at me , I probebly would have went to jail for giving them the ass-wuppin that they have needed since they were 2.
I hate going into public places.......its so hard nowadays to avoid "stupid people".
Going to the damn grocery store anymore is a pain.
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quote:Originally posted by Kimberly Zanetti: Unless I say otherwise and you're over 5' tall, my name is Mrs. Purcell.
Phew, just made the cut-off on that one!
Todd, I'll disagree with you on the respect thing. As far as I'm concerned, a person earns respect, they aren't just entitled to it because they're breathing.
What you described isn't what I would consider a lack of respect, it's a lack of being taught how a person is suppost to act. And of course, the problem stems from parents who aren't responsible enough to raise a houseplant, yet they have kids! Then they're too afraid or don't care enough or just aren't smart enough to figure out how that they need to teach the kid something.
We stopped for a quick supper a few weeks ago & for some insane reason sat in the non-smoking section. 1/2 way across the restaurant in our section was a couple with several kids, screaming the whole time. Told Bill "never again" & he asked what I would do if PA bans smoking in all restaurants. Told him I'd either find those that had "no kid" sections or I'd be eating at home. I don't have kids for a reason & it's certainly not so I can go out to eat & have to listen to someone else's screaming brat. We both agreed had we done that when we were kids, there would have been nasty consequences.
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LOL Pat....I felt the same thing as he handed me the passes...but honestly, I was stressed out enough that I figured the passes made me win the day. I turned around and gave them to my daughter and told her to bring a friend back sometime.
Great story! I always think of "what I shoulda done" after the fact. That guys was pretty quick on his feet.
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Glenn - interesting reading!
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Bob - not every situation requires lethal force...in that case, if I'd been packing...which I wasn't...it would have been sufficient to just "make 'em dance."
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-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:Good for you Todd, I'd done the same thing. Problem being if they started laughing at me , I probebly would have went to jail for giving them the ass-wuppin that they have needed since they were 2.
Jake - dude....thanks man, I needed that!
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Chris - I'm pretty much converted into following your theory on respect. Makes really good sense.
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Lotti - we'll have to disagree...I don't view yelling in a case like this as "violence." They did shut up after I yelled and started off for management....but they obviously weren't traumatized as they were laughing in my face.
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Five years ago I was probably one of those kids. Maybe not that bad. Especially not when I was alone but only when I was with a bunch a friends. To be honest their really isn’t any perfect way to handle that situation. I applaud you Lotti for choosing the more enlightened path and it would be nice if the whole world was filled with people like you that would throw water on the fire rather than more gas. But, I think that if you simply just walked up to a bunch of “butt heads” and expressed your feelings in a calm voice they would still laugh at you as you walked back to your seat. However, yelling at them obviously doesn’t work either. I would have gotten out of my chair and sat directly behind them. Then when they start talking I would be like “Hey whatcha guys talking about?” “Can I hang out with you guys” “You know I got this cult I’m trying to start… we’re building this space ship in my basement.” “We could use a few health young men such as yourselves.” If you can creep them out enough maybe they might want to leave. I mean at this point you’ve already missed part of the movie. You might as well have some fun.
-------------------- Joe Diaz Diaz Sign Art 628 W. Lincoln Ave. Pontiac, IL 61764 www.diazsignart.com Posts: 538 | From: Pontiac, IL | Registered: Aug 2005
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i'm with ya todd...i don't have a problem with what you did...probably would have done the same...your buddy is right on!lol! jd3 is right, nicey nice just don't cut it today...hence the reason i don't even care to leave my property as i find alot of society's behavior irritating...and dr phil makes my ass itch.
-------------------- Karyn Bush Simply Not Ordinary, LLC Bartlett, NH 603-383-9955 www.snosigns.com info@snosigns.com Posts: 3516 | From: Bartlett, NH USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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Interesting viewpoints. I too have been annoyed with the new generation of parenting that thinks their toddler yelling and fussing in a movie or at a public function is cute. It is downright rude.
I do agree with Lotti though that somewhere along the way these kids need to learn a different way. Sometimes a kind word from a stranger is all it may take to turn someone around. Not to say that I wouldn't have been annoyed with these guys who are definately old enough to know better.
The subject of respect is an interesting one. I have to disagree with Kissy though:
quote: As far as I'm concerned, a person earns respect, they aren't just entitled to it because they're breathing.
I think this mentality is part of the problem of today. Everyone IS(or should be) entitled to respect until they do something to lose it. To not give out respect until you can judge whether that person is entitled to it is part of the problem.
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Suelynn Sedor Sedor Signs Carnduff, SK Canada Posts: 2863 | From: Carnduff, SK Canada | Registered: Nov 1998
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I don't believe that Todd was racist in his description of the events. I don't think mentioning the color of a person when observing a problem is wrong. Especially if it is a noticeable trend.
If you go to the movies here in the southern U.S., you would observe a problem, and by observing that problem, it does not make you prejudiced or racist.
If I was a Mexican and I said there is trouble with white people in certain states using crystal meth, nobody would care. Even though I spoke critically of a person of a specific color, nobody is going to infer that I hate white people. It is a simple and accurate observation.
But if I were to say there is a problem with the black youth of today being disrespectful, I would be branded a bigot. (Lord knows, don't jump on me, I'm not saying there's a problem.)
Black radio stations play hip-hop songs all day that have blatant racial lyrics against white people, as well as glamorizing drugs, violence toward women, and having expensive cars with no job. But since I just observed that, does that make me a racist?
Man, it's a lot of trouble being white. Political correctness is driving me crazy. I don't even want to talk bad about blacks, I have black friends and have hip-hop cds. I guess it's the principle of the thing that bothers me.
Also, I am trying to see where Todd says that the people in the front were KIDS. That was assumed and stated by another poster in order to make it look like he was comparing two groups of people.
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-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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Sorry, Todd... was gonna say in the beginning I thought you were not out of bounds in your reaction... but got off on a political correctness rant before I could get it out.
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-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:Originally posted by KARYN BUSH: ...and Dr phil makes my ass itch.
you know that leads to stinky fingers right?
Lotti, I'm with Todd on this one. The "calm" approach works when they are young, not when they are teenagers. Your past that point. They are "teenagers", they know it all. Only difference between them and when we were kids is that we new were the line was when it came to adults. Respect. The only thing that gets to them now is to scare the bajezus out of them.
Works for me.
Example: Some friends of ours have a kid the same age as our daughter. For the most part he is a good kid. But he decided one evening when we were all hanging out at the house that it would be funny to slap me on the back of the head. Well, with his mother and father watching, I turned around and slaped him on the chops. He didn't think it was funny anymore. And his mom and dad agreed. If you don't draw the line in the sand, then they will. That boy is respectful when he is around me and my family now. His mom and dad are raising him right, but they will always try to push the line a little more.
Back when "whippin's" were what you got when you screwed up, we didn't have these problems as much. Wonder why?
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We all find ourselves in this same situation from time to time. Let's face it, rebellious kids are nothing new. Nothing is more fun to a punk kid or adult than some old fart they can pick on.
It's frustrating, but we cannot control everything. You ask the management to do their jobs. If that don't work you can take the Dirty Harry route and blow them away, or take the more passive route and ask for a refund.
We all have to kiss butt everyday. Our bankers, bosses, customers and even Family all need to be serviced. It's no fun, but who ever said life is perfect.
A similar incident happened to me at a viewing of The DiVinci Code. This group of Heathens took seats in front of us. Shortly after, a busload of Christians took up several rows behind us. I never really paid any attention, but 13 were black and 22 were white. One was a midget. I'm not sure of her colour.
Anyway, the Christian folk kept jumping up all thru the movie yelling stuff like " That's blasphemy!" "Jesus hates sex! He never had a wife!" Stuff like that. Very distracting.
Right about now, a bunch of you are really starting to dislike me. I may be pushing some of your buttons. Before sending me those "Hell in a handbasket" letters, you need to know my little story was all tonque in cheek.
Posts like this are fun to read, but in the end they only result in bringing out the worse in us. It has nothing to do with Letterheads or the reason we are supposed to be here. Rants like this are better being sent to the Editorial Section of our papers.
Who the heck is Shelby Steele? If they can't paint a sign, why do I need to care?
I'll leave this open in case someone wants to quote me or debate, but let's try and bang heads over something sign related. Like maulsticks.
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
About the racial thing... I personally dislike the word "white" as much as I do the word "black" as descriptive terms. Brown and Tan are better. I am not white, and Glenn is not black... how about Biege and Sienna, thats better.
-------------------- Ken McTague, Concept Signs 57 Bridge St. (route 107) Salem MA 01970 1-978-745-5800 conceptsign@yahoo.com http://www.pinheadlounge.com/CaptainKen
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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Glad you left this post open, Steve... Jon, I did not realize the "white folks" were not kids til I read that in your post! Sorry about the mistake!
I also like the points you have made about being politically correct, Jon.
Captain Ken~ No, Beige & Burnt Umber! Lol! When I was little, I used to say they weren't BLACK, they were BROWN, & WE weren't WHITE, we were PEACH! Lol!I used to like the light brown M&M's because they were brown like the people were.
-------------------- The Word in Signs Bobbie Rochow Jamestown, PA 16134
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From what I see, most kids are raising themselves with no proper supervision because their parents are too busy working to keep up with the Jones. And don’t get me going on teachers or other adult figures, because most of them are about as useful as boobs on a bullfrog.![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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so why were you wondering if they were gonna knife you? just pull out that ole hand gun and fill em full of lead dem dirty rats ![[Rolling On The Floor]](graemlins/rolf.gif)
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