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I thought I heard everything....... A customer just ordered a sign for a shower for their truck drivers that needs to be in braille. This is not open to the public. The local zoning requires it, this is a small town board, not some big city, in fact, it's not even a town, just a collection of small "villages". The obvious conclusion is that there are blind truck drivers that need to take showers out there.
-------------------- Carper's Signs 594 Union School Rd. Mount Joy, PA 17552 carpersign@earthlink.net Posts: 157 | From: Lancaster, PA, USA | Registered: Aug 1999
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Hiya Ron, Pennsylvania's ADA law is an adoption of the Federal statue and it states something to the effect that "all permanent rooms and spaces must be identified with ada compliant signage". So, maybe there's a misinterpretation somewhere? The only local enforcement of ADA laws, when it comes to signs, that I've run into is restroom signage and handicap parking. I haven't seen or run into any local officials that make an issue of lack of signage elsewhere within a facility. Beside, look at the bright side, it's more work for you
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Checkers
-------------------- a.k.a. Brian Born www.CheckersCustom.com Harrisburg, Pa Work Smart, Play Hard Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998
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That is crazy but remember the ADA laws cover more than just braille signs for the blind. The raised letter requirement also helps firemen to identify a room when the smoke is so thick you can't see your hand in front of your face mask. But I agree, the braille requirement is just plain nuts.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5403 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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if your blind wont you have enough trouble finding signs anyway.....and while we are on this subject im sick and tired of more and more handicapped spaces in front of buildings. If you have a parking lot tht has 30 spaces i think 4-5 handicapped is a little stupid....but once again we are dealing with zoning
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yes I did like the irony of Having to do a Full ADA Walk and Signage for of all things A Movie Theater so the blind people could go to the Movies and we also had to do one for the Library. I Kinda understand that one as it a Public Lirary.
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Next thing you know they'll require braille in the booths at your local gun range...hehehe.
-------------------- Kelsey Dum Dum Designs Sherwood, AR 72120 501.765.2166 kelsey@dumdesigns.com Posts: 827 | From: Sherwood, AR | Registered: Oct 2005
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I found that,, The ADA book my recommend something,, then the local dudes will try to push it into effect. Maybe this is one of those cases. IT pays to check.
Recommend is a long from require would you agree?
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""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3490 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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I don't know about Pennsylvania but in California, ADA is not a recomendation but part of the building code and required by law. I agree that ADA is flawed but flawed in our favor, as Checkers pointed out...more work for us....I don't think the truck drivers are going to clean the shower area so the sign is used by more than one group but probably not a blind janitor. Whats more intersting is that most legally blind people can't even read grade 2 braille and drive-up ATM's with braille are probably the most used ADA signs.
-------------------- Rick Chavez Hemet, CA Posts: 1539 | From: Hemet,CA U.S.A. | Registered: Jun 2001
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I read about braille signs at the umpire's dressing room at a new baseball stadium (insert your own joke here).
Norm Schachter, who was a ref at the first Super Bowl, once received a post card from his eye doctor. It read: "I saw the game Sunday. You need an appointment."
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5099 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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