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Dave Draper
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I can't seem to find the software that lets you cut from Corel Draw...for the name and wher to find it.

Thanks in advance

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Hiya Dave,
It can depend on your plotter. I know Rolands can cut right from Corel. Summas and Graphtecs some with software that acts as a "bridge".
Finally, Check out CoCut on the merchant's page. It can cut from corel and a Host of other programs.

Havin' fun,

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Cocur Pro,, really a good one.. thats all i say,,

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i use Corel to SignLab and cut from SignLab. I have an Ioline plotter and figured out how to cut directly from Corel but i usually use SignLab because it has nice weeding features.

If i were starting from scratch though and didn't already have SignLab, i agree with Curtis, i would go with CoCut Pro as my cutting program.

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I already have a cutting program for signlab but would like to cut from corel. Am i able to download a Cocut driver or will it hurt my programs? [I Don t Know]

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you can down load a cocut pro demo for 30 day trial.. No, it will not hurt anything,, At least I have never heard of a credible complaint..

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Thankyou Curtis

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roland suma graphtec all are DIRECT FROM COREL CUTTERS...if you have a roland you need a the driver DO27290J.exe if you cant find it i can email it to you.....SUMA & GRAPHTEC have drivers available...
been cuttin right from corel program since version 3......but i have roland..............

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yes, its possible,, but, why make it harder on yourself when a good tool is available.

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install corel, install driver....setup corel to plotter....and youre up and running......cost..price of corel, DRIVER IS FREE, been doin it this way since 93....iam one of the 1st do use corel and 13 years later...iAINT SEEN ANYTHING EASIER.....but thats just me....hehehehehehe
NOTE: ONLY CORELS NOT CAPABLE are VERION 5 AND 6
7 AND ABOVE ARE THE BEST....

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For me, the advantage of software like Signlab and Flexi are the ability to poll the plotter page size and trap multiple colors. Great time savers.

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There is all that available in Cocut pro. Cocut pro with Corel is a complete sign making program..
It can trap, over lap, paneling for large files, poll plotters for sizes, contour and just about anything you can wish for. Set cutting speeds, pressure cut by color, convert outline to a cut line.. every thing... Welding included.
This combinaiton does just about anything 99% of us use in making a sign. Then, if there is that one item such as consecqutive numbering there are plugins available for that too..
Plus if you wish to print there is Pjannto RIP that works hand i nhad with corel, and Cocut as well..

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Joe..Quit trying to convince people of the things that are so easy to do!! (BTW..THANK YOU for showing me the, so very easy and simple way!!)

The simple/easy way works.

Lets keep it our secret Joe!!

Sometimes folks just have a need to spend money that they have burning a hole in their pockets!!

Corel/Roland works just fine for me!!!!!!

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I keep hearin ghow easy it is to do power weeding, over laps, trapping, poll the cutter for material width, cut by color, display and set pressure, or speed,, and paneling straight out of corel..

But I have never seen a tutorial on how its done. If all of this is easy then there must be key strokes to follow, If there are simple key strokes to follow then a macro could easily be coded. I would like to see a tutoiral or a "how to" for making all this so easy..

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How do you cut direct fron corel with a summ D60

Brian

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Brian,
I assume that you mean Summa? [Smile]
If so, you should have received a CD with your plotter that contains the winplot software. Once you install the software, it will show up as a button or a link in your Corel toolbar.
When your design is ready to cut, just select the items you want to cut and click on the winplot button. From there, a new window, which is winplot, will open and you're ready to start cutting.
The software queries your plotter to see how wide the media is and your ready to go. It can do multiple copies, rotate, panel and even adjust your blade pressure and speed right from the software control panel.
I feel that the only drawback to the software is that it only comes with a "PDF" manual which I find annoying to read. So, the cutting software may do more, but I'm just not aware of it yet.

Havin' fun,

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BRIAN get hold of a guy that posts her howard kempler, i think hes a guy with SUMMA...they have a driver that will let you cut right from corel WITHOUT WIN-PLOT.
cutting from corel DIRECT TO PLOTTER(with a roland) is so easy a cave man could do it..hahahahah...i know i been doin it since version 3....when some people who are big names in this business said it wont work and it dont cut as well as GERBER...does....BUT IT DONT COST LIKE GERBER.....either.....or any other add-on/plug-in or totally seperate vinyl cutting program.....i started with $1600 and had a computer...WITH COREL 3 and was cuttin vinyl the same nite i bought the plotter....it was that easy....ive cut from, ARTS & LETTERS 5,6.0, ILLISTRATOR, FREEHAND, CANVAS, COREL PRINT HOUSE, and i even got PRINT ARTIST to cut....
any program that will regognize VECTOR IMAGES... can be used to plot and cut.

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Hi Dave and Brian,
We manufacturer an add-on for CorelDRAW called Signtools. SignTools contains over 200 drivers for direct cutting from Corel. It also contains 30 specailty tools for sign making. For detailed information on SignTools click on the link below.

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http://www.asigns.com/SignTools.htm


Also you could try the trial version which works for 25 uses.

[URL=http://www.asigns.com/signtools_demo.htm]
http://www.asigns.com/signtools_demo.htm

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Curtis, I don't know about power weeding or trapping, hell I don't even know what they are:) but you can cut by color in Corel very easily by using the layers feature. You do your layout in color and assign each color to a different layer. You load up your red or whatever in the plotter bring up the layer with red on it, click the print icon so it's highlighted and hit print.

Thanks to Mike Pipes for clueing me in on that one.

A tutorial would nice buy would also take a lot of time. Maybe everybody could chip in one "trick" a piece and somebody could catalog it or whatever.

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Hi George..I don't use "layers" on any of my work. I just assign the colours. Just my way I guess.

(everything below are just my thoughts..nothing directed at anyone..call it a kinda mini tips thing)

If this is of any interest to anyone, the colour palettes I use are 3M and Avery. I assign the colours I am going to use and cut each colour individually.

The cutter has no idea what material is loaded. I just tell it to cut it.

BUT it sure is nice, 2 or 3 years down the road, when a customer calls up and needs to get his new truck done..I know exactly which flavour of red or green or blue he is talking about.

My cutter (Roland) actualy "senses" how wide the material is..and it is pretty particular about where the pinch rollers are. If it doesn't feel comfortable with the locations..it refuses to work.

All I have to do is "mention" to it what the vinyl width is..pretty simple really.


As far as contours and converting outlines to cut and welding..it is all available in CorelDraw.

I really don't see a need for any extra baggage.

Typed in the spirit of sharing information..if anyone is interested in more info..e-mail me..always willing to share.

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Me Ugg, me cut from Corel, Dave and OP show me how. Me not use other software. If me do it, any other'caveman' do it. [Razz]

However, I've been wondering, what is "overcut"? Is it where the blade continues a ways past the stopping point, for easier weeding? [I Don t Know]

Would be interested in knowing how to get rid of that annoying little tiny bit of vinyl that often is still attached to each piece of vinyl. Roland PNC 1100. [Confused]

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james my pnc-1100 dont have that problem ever..now my old pcn-1000 did, i think it has to do with corel softwear. witn my pnc-1000 i was runnin 7. when i loaded 10 and the pnc-1100 it dont do that. try cuttin a box or a circle see if ot does it only on FONTS or on OBJECTS & FONTS.....i think this says it better....

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Joel Prudish - (op)

The name is Howard Keiper, and he represents Graphtec - the competitor of Summa - NOT Summa.

"Remember that a man's name is to him the sweetest and most important sound in the language."
-Dale Carnegie-

Cya JoeAnn....hehehehehehehe [Razz] [Bash]

[ June 26, 2006, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: Todd Gill ]

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ok toddie baby......you sweet thing.......hahahahahaha shave that mustash..youre lookin more and more like GROCHO MARX ...............

[ June 26, 2006, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]

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[Rolling On The Floor] Geeez! It took ya long enough OP....hahaha...you were starting to worry me.

Your affectionate words leads me to believe you must have a lot of older brothers..... read today's headlines on Yahoo.com and you'll get what I mean....

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I'm just twistin' your ankles....don't make me post the "OP Man-bra" picture again! Hehehe

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YOU LUV EM.........

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Thanks, Todd [Smile] )

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sorry howard..but you have a driver for graphtec that will cut right from corel..right?

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I plot and digital print straight from Corel. I have plotted straight from Corel with an Ioline, Roland and Graphtec plotters on vers. 1,3,9,12 & 13. I bought Winplot and Cocut and used it for 4 & 7 for the corner rounding feature, but I wished I hadn't, it had that frigging dongle making it hard to network.

I have 3 puters networked for cutting and printing out of Corel and with 13 I can use the corner rounding and champfer feature. Back in the archives I have explained it for 12 (13 being about the same) and so has Dave for earlier versions if memory serves me.

You can layer, not layer, virtually do it however you want with many of the features Corel has. No need to open another program. Some insist it ain't so making liars out of me, OP and Dave, but it is so, so there you go.

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Bill - do you know if this can be done directly out of Adobe Illustrator rather than CorelDraw?

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Don't know squat about Illustrator. Sorry Todd.

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Hi Todd,

CoCut supports CorelDRAW, Illustrator and FreeHand. CoCut Pro supports AutoCAD in addition to those.

I should add that CoCut Pro does more than add AutoCAD drivers to CoCut. It support print-and-cut on virtually any vinyl cutter -- which is completely moot since no one would ever want to contour-cut on anything but a Summa cutter :-)

Plus CoCut Pro has welding that makes Corel, etc, designs instantly vinyl-ready, as well as many other "sign" features most desktop publishing programs lack. It's really the best cutting plug-in on the planet.

Best Regards,

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toddie....did you red post 7243????? i said IVE CUT FROM ILLISTRATOR.....DIRECT TO PLOTTER....but i have a roland plotter...my understanding of the process is simple, if youre plotter understands/reads/interpolates HPGL then you can plot direct to it from any HIGH END VECTOR MANIPULATING PROGRAM. also iam connected to the plotter as a PRINTER....which means i only have a SEND ability to plotter. if you are connected via COMM PORT to plotter you have a send/recieve ability..which means you can get info from the plotter.....as to where to staret cuttin.....
and the new X3 WELDS on its own...if you brake a line and then put both ends together...it makes it an OBJECT...so it will cut....
i have had the opportunities of workin with SIGN PROGRAMS: SIGNLAB, FLEXI, SIGNMATE, SIGN WIZARD, INSPIRE, CAS-MATE AND THE PERDCESSOR OF CO-CUT...PRO-CUT. and i wont even list GERBER...its so bad..... of all the above programs, CAS-MATE, INSPIRE, SIGN LAB, SIGN WIZARD are my favorites. BUT...99% OF MY VINYL WORK IS DONE DIRECT FROM COREL.....and my favorites there are 4, 7, 10,
ive had the most experiance with....so if any of you need a design i did....IT WILL BE IN CRD or CMX format. COREL RULES......NO DONGLE NEEDED...
NO PLUG-IN/ADD ON or workes seemlessly from within corel.....and if i ever get to printing....i think PHOTO-PAINT will handle that....

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I've been using a company based in Australia called "SignTools 3.06 plug-in." It cuts directly from CorelDraw 7 and now X3, and when installed, it's icon sits conveniently on the top tool bar. It has added features other add-ons may not have, like outline, drop shadows, welding, inline-outline, outline drop shadow and decorative extras like patterns you can can cut out of letters etc etc. It also has registration marks for applying those multi-color over lays And of course you can cut by color that the program utilizes within Corel's color pages in conjunction with SignTools Color Seperation module, bulit in to it's tool menu. The SignTools drop menu shows it's full view of all the cutting features it has, plus is moveable to where it clears the work area for visibility purposes.

The cost comes in at about $300 bucks and is not too shabby of a deal for what it offers. Truly a well designed plugin made by signmakers.

Hope this helps....

[ June 28, 2006, 04:48 AM: Message edited by: Glenn Racoma ]

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quote:
completely moot since no one would ever want to contour-cut on anything but a Summa cutter
HEHE,, good try my friend. I like cutting contours with my Anagraph,,, Now, if a Summa has what my Anagraph does such as a full width grit roller, and the option to change the input port from serial to parallel via the menu buttons, and if it comes time to replace the Anagraph,, I would likely look twice at a Summa..

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I have always print/cut directly from Corel to my PC-60. Never had any problems.

I do have SignTools 3.0 as well, but not for cutting, but more for the other features. For designing it has outline, inline, drop shadows, etc. These design elements are created so they can be cut in vinyl. For productivity, I like the features of paneling, remove overlaps, color separator, multicopy, weedbox, and vinyl saver. It's a good add-on, in my opinion.

But, regardless, I've always cut directly from CorelDRAW.

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Thanks Glenn and Randy for the kind words about SignTools. I am the designer and co-developer. If anyone has any questions regarding SignTools feel free to email me at andrew@asigns.com or for more info have a look at our web site http://www.asigns.com/SignTools.htm

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quick tips in cutting directly from Corel

Speedweeding directly from corel - Weld a line to the text.

Create a template page that has boxes on the guides layer corresponding to standard vinyl widths, quicky cut paste and arrange your design for cutting without wasting time or vinyl.

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There is also a weed macro (I posted a link in the recent corel shortcut thread). I'm in Vermont until Wed and on a dialup line so if you can't find the macro email me on Thursday.

The macro draws a rectangle around each selected object(s) at a user specified distance away from the object. Very slick.

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